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To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (19254)8/11/1998 5:33:00 PM
From: Raj  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50167
 
Iqbal,
Thanks for providing an excellent analysis and prognosis of the markets and unravelling the mysteries of the pits. I guess we shall soon see Rubin and MOF intervene to prop up the Yen. IMO this will be not be an effective strategy unless it is concurrently followed by a strong action to stimulate the domestic economy ....devaluation in Yen will negatively impact Japanese exports.
BTW, do you expect the markets to trade in a +- 2% trading range till Q3 earnings season?

Raj



To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (19254)8/11/1998 7:45:00 PM
From: IQBAL LATIF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50167
 
Paradigms of Panic Asia goes back to the future. By Paul Krugman

Dr. Paul Krugman is a professor of economics at MIT whose books include The Age of Diminished Expectations and Peddling Prosperity.

There were warning signs aplenty. Anyone could have told you about the epic corruption--about tycoons whose empires depended on their political connections and about politicians growing rich in ways best not discussed. Speculation, often ill informed, was rampant. Besides, how could investors hope to know what they were buying, when few businesses kept scrupulous accounts? Yet most brushed off these well-known vices as incidental to the real story, which was about economic growth that was the wonder of the world. Indeed, many regarded the cronyism as a virtue rather than a vice, the signature of an economic system that was more concerned with getting results than with the niceties of the process. And for years, the faint voices of the skeptics were drowned out by the roar of an economic engine fueled by ever larger infusions of foreign capital. The crisis began small, with the failure of a few financial institutions that had bet too heavily that the boom would continue, and the bankruptcy of a few corporations that had taken on too much debt. These failures frightened investors, whose attempts to pull their money out led to more bank failures; the desperate attempts of surviving banks to raise cash caused both a credit crunch (pushing many businesses that had seemed financially sound only months before over the brink) and plunging stock prices, bankrupting still more financial houses. Within months, the panic had reduced thousands of people to sudden destitution. Moreover, the financial disaster soon took its toll on the real economy, too: As industrial production skidded and unemployment soared, there was a surge in crime and worker unrest.

ut why am I telling you what happened to the United States 125 years ago, in the Panic of 1873? Anyone who claims to fully understand the economic disaster that has overtaken Asia proves, by that very certainty, that he doesn't know what he is talking about. The truth is that we have never seen anything quite like this, and that everyone--from the country doctors at the International Monetary Fund and the Treasury Department who must prescribe economic medicine to those of us who have the luxury of irresponsibility--is groping frantically for models and metaphors to make sense of this thing. The usual round of academic and quasiacademic conferences and round tables has turned into a sort of rolling rap session, in which the usual suspects meet again and again to trade theories and, occasionally, accusations. Much of the discussion has focused on the hidden weaknesses of the Asian economies and how they produced fertile ground for a financial crisis; the role of runaway banks that exploited political connections to gamble with other people's money has emerged as the prime suspect. But amid the tales of rupiah and ringgit one also hears surprisingly old-fashioned references--to Charles Kindleberger's classic 1978 book Manias, Panics, and Crashes, and even to Walter Bagehot's Lombard Street (1873). Asia's debacle, a growing number of us now think, is at least in part a souped-up modern version of a traditional, 1873-style financial panic. The logic of financial panic is fairly well understood in principle, thanks both to the old literary classics and to a 1983 mathematical formalization by Douglas Diamond and Philip Dybvig. The starting point for panic theory is the observation that there is a tension between the desire of individuals for flexibility--the ability to spend whenever they feel like it--and the economic payoff to commitment, to sticking with long-term projects until they are finished. In a primitive economy there is no way to avoid this tradeoff--if you want to be able to leave for the desert on short notice, you settle for matzo instead of bread, and if you want ready cash, you keep gold coins under the mattress. But in a more sophisticated economy this dilemma can be finessed. BankBoston is largely in the business of lending money at long term--say, 30-year mortgages--yet it offers depositors such as me, who supply that money, the right to withdraw it any time we like.

hat a financial intermediary (a bank or something more or less like a bank) does is pool the money of a large number of people and put most of that money into long-term investments that are "illiquid"--that is, hard to turn quickly into cash. Only a fairly small reserve is held in cash and other "liquid" assets. The reason this works is the law of averages: On any given day, deposits and withdrawals more or less balance out, and there is enough cash on hand to take care of any difference. The individual depositor is free to pull his money out whenever he wants; yet that money can be used to finance projects that require long-term commitment. It is a sort of magic trick that is fundamental to making a complex economy work. Magic, however, has its risks. Normally, financial intermediation is a wonderful thing; but now and then, disaster strikes. Suppose that for some reason--maybe a groundless rumor--many of a bank's depositors begin to worry that their money isn't safe. They rush to pull their money out. But there isn't enough cash to satisfy all of them, and because the bank's other assets are illiquid, it cannot sell them quickly to raise more cash (or can do so only at fire-sale prices). So the bank goes bust, and the slowest-moving depositors lose their money. And those who rushed to pull their money out are proved right--the bank wasn't safe, after all. In short, financial intermediation carries with it the risk of bank runs, of self-fulfilling panic. A panic, when it occurs, can do far more than destroy a single bank. Like the Panic of 1873--or the similar panics of 1893; 1907; 1920; and 1931, that mother of all bank runs (which, much more than the 1929 stock crash, caused the Great Depression)--it can spread to engulf the whole economy. Nor is strong long-term economic performance any guarantee against such crises. As the list suggests, the United States was not only subject to panics but also unusually crisis-prone compared with other advanced countries during the very years that it was establishing its economic and technological dominance.

hy, then, did the Asian crisis catch everyone by surprise? Because there was a half-century, from the '30s to the '80s, when they just didn't seem to make panics the way they used to. In fact, we--by which I mean economists, politicians, business leaders, and everyone else I can think of--had pretty much forgotten what a good old-fashioned panic was like. Well, now we remember. I'm not saying that Asia's economies were "fundamentally sound," that this was a completely unnecessary crisis. There are some smart people--most notably Harvard's Jeffrey Sachs--who believe that, but my view is that Asian economies had gone seriously off the rails well before last summer, and that some kind of unpleasant comeuppance was inevitable. That said, it is also true that Asia's experience is not unique; it follows the quite similar Latin American "tequila" crisis of 1995, and bears at least some resemblance to the earlier Latin American debt crisis of the 1980s. In each case there were some serious policy mistakes made that helped make the economies vulnerable. Yet governments are no more stupid or irresponsible now than they used to be; how come the punishment has become so much more severe?

art of the answer may be that our financial system has become dangerously efficient. In response to the Great Depression, the United States and just about everyone else imposed elaborate regulations on their banking systems. Like most regulatory regimes, this one ended up working largely for the benefit of the regulatees--restricting competition and making ownership of a bank a more or less guaranteed sinecure. But while the regulations may have made banks fat and sluggish, it also made them safe. Nowadays banks are by no means guaranteed to make money: To turn a profit they must work hard, innovate--and take big risks. Another part of the answer--one that Kindleberger suggested two decades ago--is that to introduce global financial markets into a world of merely national monetary authorities is, in a very real sense, to walk a tightrope without a net. As long as finance is a mainly domestic affair, what people want in a bank run is local money--and, guess what, the government is able to print as much as it wants. But when Indonesians started running from their banks a few months ago, what they wanted was dollars--and neither the Indonesian government nor the IMF can give them enough of what they want. I am not one of those people who believes that the Asian crisis will or even can cause a world depression. In fact, I think that the United States is still, despite Asia, more at risk from inflation than deflation. But what worries me--aside from the small matter that Indonesia, with a mere 200 million people, seems at the time of writing to be sliding toward the abyss--is the thought that we may have to get used to such crises. Welcome to the New World Order.




To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (19254)8/12/1998 3:42:00 AM
From: IQBAL LATIF  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 50167
 
Cool head- a realistic approach and defined targets is the only way to deal in voltality and correcting markets.

Out of many ways to predict a market move-- the bears have a unique 'voodoo' system. A mongrel cross between news exploitation and throwing various technical interpretations. Comparing markets and ''Presidentials" up and downs, looking for that 750 point move to come or the big ''25%'' move 2000 point drop equivalent to the famous 1987 Oct single drop! Even putting in 'Russian compulsive dependency on Vodka and its relationship to 21% cumulative decline of Moscow' and vows of ASEA and Continental Europe that big drop eludes them.

They still don't see the big move which can take them through these supports- for them 'market can be up' or 'down' or 'can be anywhere' is the pet phrase- some specialists on wave theory talk of waves but look at DJIA 96-98 charts from July 96 onwards most of these waves theory specialists would find to their utter dismay that wave theory looks in gutter on that two years chart. Lot of waves and distinct peaks and troughs have come like March 97 peak, Aug 97 peak Sept 97 peak mini, May 98 peak July 98 peak along with these have come the troughs-- the April May 97 trough Oct 97 trough Feb 97 trough Jun trough and the one we are in. Any amount of wave theoretical explanations will not justify this huge trend up. Why should a bull market be characterized to keep making new highs on weekly basis this market is a realistic bull and shall not do that to the utter chagrin of bears.

To know if their predictions have ever worked look between the big moves up and look back at these perpetual bears, from Barton Biggs to Kurlack and lesser personalities on SI, you find them shorting on Oct-Nov 97 the move from 6900 to 9314, again a little while back when BKX took off they were shorting at 690-- it went up to 950 and when this mother of all moves composite bounce came from 1715 just a while ago from 200 days MA they were again short. Show me a short who has not missed the biggest opportunity to make money and was long in this move up and I will show you someone who has credentials to call this move down. Going by past record a classic short who never participated ''up'' will be wrong in his assessments for lows also.

This 'voodoo' system were looking for that big sell when the best buy hit the market on Friday- late yesterday as bears were being squeezed these 'voodoo' analysts threw in new interpretations of Nikkei breaking down for today which it did not neither 1060 or their so called support broke. It was anyway not about DJIA yesterday the real fight was in SPU-- I see with utter disgust this ''short'' approach-- ''be short within a best move up- keep their predictions flowing every day on a short side predicting a melt down, and any day when markets consolidate or correct heap on markets the nonsense of 'I told you so' forgetting that they also told us many other stories. Anyone who did not have the pleasure of owning CSCO at low teens will not realize that if it goes from 105 to 96 it is still nine time higher than the cost.

Let me inform the bears it is not the bears who are short it is the bull who are ''bears'' right now. This is a perfect legitimate move within a bull trend and this is the best possible thing happened to the market within this bull leg from 6900 to 9314, a retracement to this lower channel between 8499 and 8795 for a full one quarter will provide the strong fundamentals on which future earnings will propel this market forward. This channel you can trace it back to 7861 taking a cue from July low of 5400 in 96. The top of this channel is 9314. I will think that a second close below this level I have of 8499 would leave us open to move as low as 8228 but I will think we will see a move back above 8499, a single move within a bull leg on a negative sentiment day is non- confirmatory.

The basic premises of this market sell off is based on slowing momentum of corporate profits, the fact is far from reality if you wish to scratch surface a bit you would find that minus computers and peripherals the latest quarter had a after tax profits in excess of 5%.CPQ, MOT, GM AT&T, LU profits were down due to extra ordinary circumstances-- DEC was written off by CPQ- the Technologies and 29% drop of INTC profits reflected worst stage for semis, now AMAT last night earnings have put a damper on the thoughts of anyone who were writing off the Tech sector, this sector has the potential to improve its performance in next two quarters. The expectations have been lowered but don't forget we had 7% increase in top line revenues, according to me it is the revs increase I look at carefully, the top line. I expect that losses in computer peripherals, Oil and Gas, Electronics, semis , cars and Trucks will beat street last quarter expectations, we will in this quarter see consolidation at the lower end of this range that is between 8228 and 8795 even extending to 9106 but the building blocks of next move have to be secured before any move higher. Never be misled by analysts who look at numbers as a whole within these numbers I see enough of sectors which can come back very nicely.

A bear market is associated with falling consumer spending, failing banks, increasing bank defaults, rising inflation, and last but not least a bond market which reflects all this a bear market has one strong features the yields are not falling they are rising. In case of US it is not the deflationary situation economists are worried about it is the inflationary threat- even that little inflation in the system provides the kicks which corporate profits do need a zero inflationary society like Japan has its own problems. Is this a bubble about to burst they told me that at 5400 than at 6400, as late as Oct 97 at 6900 they wanted the market to be at 4000, anyone seriously investing the markets know that like the previous arguments these are also based on assumptions which will not hold, the US economy is in robust form, the banking system is not exposed to hilt in ASEA and the asset bubble is not their to be busted. This note to the thread is part of my effort to explain my mind set, my basis of projections and how I define certain issues concerning a move up or down. It is important for a someone who has assumed the mantle of writing on thread to make his bias clear.
Out of many ways to predict a market move-- the bears have a unique 'voodoo' system. A mongrel cross between news exploitation and throwing various technical interpretations. From ''Presidential up and downs! Russian compulsive dependency on Vodka and its relationship to 21% cumulative decline and vows of ASEA and Continental Europe , all in one way or the other are core arguments of shorts. They still don't see the big move which can take them through these supports- for them 'market can be up' or 'down' or 'can be anywhere' is the pet phrase- some specialists on wave theory talk of waves but look at DJIA 96-98 charts from July 96 onwards most of these waves theory specialists would find to their utter dismay that wave theory looks in gutter on that two years chart. Lot of waves and distinct peaks and troughs have come like March 97 peak, Aug 97 peak Sept 97 peak mini, May 98 peak July 98 peak along with these have come the troughs-- the April May 97 trough Oct 97 trough Feb 97 trough Jun trough and the one we are in. Any amount of wave theoretical explanations will not justify this huge trend up. Why should a bull market be characterized to keep making new highs on weekly basis this market is a realistic bull and shall not do that to the utter chagrin of bears.

To know if their predictions have ever worked look between the big moves up and look back at these perpetual bears, from Barton Biggs to Kurlack and lesser personalities on SI, you find them shorting on Oct-Nov 97 the move from 6900 to 9314, again a little while back when BKX took off they were shorting at 690-- it went up to 950 and when this mother of all moves composite bounce came from 1715 just a while ago from 200 days MA they were again short. Show me a short who has not missed the biggest opportunity to make money and was long in this move up and I will show you someone who has credentials to call this move down. Going by past record a classic short who never participated ''up'' will be wrong in his assessments for lows also.

This 'voodoo' system were looking for that big sell when the best buy hit the market on Friday- late yesterday as bears were being squeezed these 'voodoo' analysts threw in new interpretations of Nikkei breaking down for today which it did not neither 1060 or their so called support broke. It was anyway not about DJIA yesterday the real fight was in SPU-- I see with utter disgust this ''short'' approach-- ''be short within a best move up- keep their predictions flowing every day on a short side predicting a melt down, and any day when markets consolidate or correct heap on markets the nonsense of 'I told you so' forgetting that they also told us many other stories. Anyone who did not have the pleasure of owning CSCO at low teens will not realize that if it goes from 105 to 96 it is still nine time higher than the cost.

Let me inform the bears it is not the bears who are short it is the bull who are ''bears'' right now. This is a perfect legitimate move within a bull trend and this is the best possible thing happened to the market within this bull leg from 6900 to 9314, a retracement to this lower channel between 8499 and 8795 for a full one quarter will provide the strong fundamentals on which future earnings will propel this market forward. This channel you can trace it back to 7861 taking a cue from July low of 5400 in 96. The top of this channel is 9314. I will think that a second close below this level I have of 8499 would leave us open to move as low as 8228 but I will think we will see a move back above 8499, a single move within a bull elg on a negative sentiment day is non- confirmatory.

The basic premises of this market sell off is based on slowing momentum of corporate profits, the fact is far from reality if you wish to scratch surface a bit you would find that minus computers and peripherals the latest quarter had a after tax profits in excess of 5%.CPQ, MOT, GM AT&T, LU profits were down due to extra ordinary circumstances-- DEC was written off by CPQ- the Technologies and 29% drop of INTC profits reflected worst stage for semis, now AMAT last night earnings have put a damper on the thoughts of anyone who were writing off the Tech sector, this sector has the potential to improve its performance in next two quarters. The expectations have been lowered but don't forget we had 7% increase in top line revenues, according to me it is the revs increase I look at carefully, the top line. I expect that losses in computer peripherals, Oil and Gas, Electronics, semis , cars and Trucks will beat street last quarter expectations, we will in this quarter see consolidation at the lower end of this range that is between 8228 and 8795 even extending to 9106 but the building blocks of next move have to be secured before any move higher. Never be misled by analysts who look at numbers as a whole within these numbers I see enough of sectors which can come back very nicely.

A bear market is associated with falling consumer spending, failing banks, increasing bank defaults, rising inflation, and last but not least a bond market which reflects all this a bear market has one strong features the yields are not falling they are rising. In case of US it is not the deflationary situation economists are worried about it is the inflationary threat- even that little inflation in the system provides the kicks which corporate profits do need a zero inflationary society like Japan has its own problems. Is this a bubble about to burst they told me that at 5400 than at 6400, as late as Oct 97 at 6900 they wanted the market to be at 4000, anyone seriously investing the markets know that like the previous arguments these are also based on assumptions which will not hold, the US economy is in robust form, the banking system is not exposed to hilt in ASEA and the asset bubble is not their to be busted. This note to the thread is part of my effort to explain my mind set, my basis of projections and how I define certain issues concerning a move up or down. It is important for a someone who has assumed the mantle of writing on thread to make his bias clear.



To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (19254)8/12/1998 11:07:00 AM
From: IQBAL LATIF  Respond to of 50167
 
On my prediction of intervention in 36 hours -- I am told by some currency traders that we have seen some majors asking for prices on Yen-- early morning European trading- the markets have been informed unofficially that MOF is ready to intervene. This is obtaining your objectives without going into the market-- Rubin is a master in this art.