To: Sai P. yandamuri who wrote (999 ) 8/16/1998 1:02:00 PM From: ztect Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 40688
Sai, Regarding your comments regarding IPO's, I've thought about this quite a bit myself. If the idea is such a powerful one as we all seem to agree, why couldn't PNL attract venture capital to get the company operational prior to bringing an IPO to the NASDAQ? Now answering this question can reinforce any point of view one wishes to take. This would be a good first question to ask PNL directly. However, the answer to this question seems to beget other questions concerning the relationship with partners. Namely, if a small company on an OTC board can align itself with recognized companies, why does it need venture capital especially if those companies are willing to accept stock in lieu of cash payment? There are a plethora of other BB stocks, that are allied with the likes of IBM (QCSC), Siemans and WorldCom (FNTN), Motorala (ALYA) and Mitsubishi (SGII) just for example. One then has to question the nature of these allegiances. One may also want to know what indemnity these large companies have to protect themselves and their reputations through their participation with such speculative issues. The legalese in these contracts between the un-established companies and the established ones must be quite immense. Contractually there probably are certain advantages for these established companies to deal with public companies. There are probably stipulations about the timeliness of reporting, et cetera. There all also higher rewards if the ideas pan out. Plus the product or service may come quicker to the end user. (IMO timeliness, the time it takes, is a major reason why many companies go this route). Without seeing the contracts, it is hard to truly ascertain the full advantage to any of the participants by going public before the business is functional. Malko made a good point by noting how the Internet, chat boards, and Internet trading has drawn more attention to smaller issues for better or worse. So with all this attention, this may mean that we will probably see many more new companies coming to the market prior to full functionality. This in essence makes many small investors "second tier" venture capitalists. As venture capitalists, we will be rewarded (or we will lose) proportional to the risk or venture we wish to take. We also will constantly have to reassess how long and how committed we choose to be to any particular idea before we increase or decrease are financial exposures. Therefore in accessing PNL, you have to start with the other companies associated with PNL: D&B, Dow Jones, Rare Medium, Royal Impressions, Unz & Co. The full extent of the relationship between any of these companies and PNL isn't (nor should it be) public knowledge. I'd have to assume that all the above companies have full indemnity for any actions taken against PNL. However, there have been many comments on this thread stating that if PNL was an IPO it would come to market at such and such a price since other Internet IPO's came to market at such high valuations. The rational for such statements was based on the fact that these other IPO's had no earnings to date. As we both concur, these other companies were functioning private companies that were taken public. Comparing PNL to Geocities, Inktomi, or others is kind of absurd, considering the tract records of these other companies and the clients they already have. I don't make this statement to denigrate PNL in anyway. I make this statement to emphasize that these are completely different scenarios. (You can't compare apples to oranges or eggs, for that matter). Now what is very interesting considering Internet companies is how large companies like Disney are buying into the established names. So the large companies are both buying into speculative BB internets, when these companies are being initiated, and into the "brand name" internets which are already established. Please let me know what you think about any of my above thoughts. z btw- Xerox screwed up long before MAC had a chance. So regarding top down management that "Mr. Patience" noted, the Xerox Corp gets one of the all time blunder awards for not recognizing what was being developed by their own company's researchers (the GUI interface, for example).