Hi everyone:
I am telling you, I am having a hard time adjusting to the time difference here. I took a badly needed nap at 05:00 pm in the afternoon and couldn't wake up until 10:00 pm at night! Now, I am wide awake with all night to go! Guess what, I am currently 12 hours ahead of New York eastern time. My 10:00 pm here Monday night is New York 10:00 am Monday morning! If only this 12 hours head start is the real future, I could report back to you guys... so much for day-dreaming here...
Hey Sai, I have been waiting and waiting and thought you would never ask! See below:
Mr.Patience,With all due respect, I just would like to know your definition of 'longterm' investment. IMO any investment with a period of less than one year is considered to be 'Shortterm'. I assume U are here in PNLK for more than 1 year.
Before I answer, I will like to say that I agree with terri acey's definition of long term investment also. Here is my take on the subject. There are different ways to look at long-term investment. You can buy matured blue chips stock for dividend income and average appreciation. Or you can buy start-up companies with no dividend but enormous appreciation.
Regarding blue chips. Yes, there are many blue chips that can appreciate better than average also. Warren Buffet builds up his wealth picking only blue chips stocks that many thought were fully matured already. Thus, there is some talent required in picking blue chips stock for long-term appreciation over dividend income. And Warren Buffet has a keen intelligence to realize this talent as an early age! His buy and hold strategy brought him great wealth and reputation beyond anybody dream.
Of course, buying start-up company for long-term also requires talent. But this is a different kind of talent. For this talent also requires a vision of the 'new' future and a strong 'stomach' to go with it. This is pure speculation at its best. Meaning it has great risk to go along with the great return. Nevertheless, the toughest job is finding the right start-up to apply this special talent.
Since I am no longer as young as Warren when I realize the 'secret' of long-term investment, I choose the second route- buying start-up companies for long-term investment. If I see a company I am going to invest has potential to grow more than 3 years out, it is a long-term investment. The beauty of buying start-up as long-term is that all you need is one 'hit' and you will more than cover all your losses from the many 'misses'. But in order for this one 'hit' to be BIG, you must hold this small tree until it becomes a big tree!
How many times have you heard people complaining that they wished they hadn't sold Microsoft, Intel, Amazon, or Yahoo so early? Let's say you buy stock 'ABCD' at $1.00 and sell it at $5.00 because you think there will be some profit-taking consolidation taking place based on your technical analysis. Alas, this profit-taking is short-lived because 'ABCD' management announced better than expected profit or a new partnership relationship. Stock price immediately goes up to $7.00. Will you chase it then? You see, you now have a new dilemma that long-term investors don't have to deal with. If you don't chase it and want to wait until it comes back down to $5.00 (a very common tactic for short-term traders because they don't want to pay more than they sold it for!), you run the risk of missing the 'entire' appreciation of the stock for the next xxx years. Each price increase from the $7.00 just make it so much harder for you to buy back in!
Remember, I am simply explaining why I believe in long-term appreciation. Of course, if you are a pure short-term trader like Rudy, you will not care if 'ABCD' price shoots to the moon after you get out at $5.00. Because this is the risk you and Rudy are willing to take. And all this is based on the assumption that the start-up I picked is a valid and potent one. And for each start-up that doesn't pan out, you and Rudy will have plenty of 'feel good' stories to tell! But I am willing to bet that after 10 years, I will have more money than you and Rudy combined if we start with the same capital base. And all I have to do is to apply some vision of the future in picking my start-up companies for long-term investment!
IMO one should take stock price & Analysts opinion into consideration while evaluating whether to invest in a company for a longterm or not. PNLK is not a proven company for us to say that we don't need or we don't care for a third party/Analysts opinion to evaluate their business goals.
Again, I think you are still using traditional thinking process in evaluating long-term investment. IMHO, the beginning of the internet age shifts the whole paradigm of well known investment strategies. Analysts opinion from well known brokerage houses were way to promote awareness of the company to many investors who were not aware of it. How can you blame them, there are more than 10,000 stocks in NYSE and Nasdaq alone! But the proliferation of internet access changes all that. The BEST example I can give you is AOL (America Online). Well known brokerage houses did not cover AOL until early investors were taking home 10-bagger (10 times of original investment). So, how did AOL generate so many interest buyers that propelled it to a 10-bagger before the big guys started recommending it? Can you make a guess? Could it be possible that many early investors who bought AOL were SUBSCRIBERS of America Online? Did I ring a bell yet?
Analysts are FULLTIME PROFESSIONALS and it is their job to follow these companies closely. If they don't do good work, they will lose their jobs.
If you follow the WSJ daily, you might be inclined to believe there are many job turnover for stock analysts.
A lot of companies, especially startups like PNLK do have aggressive business goals but a majority of them fail during implementation phase.
Ahhh, this is where the beauty lies. Will PNLK succeed? My opinion is YES and I am willing to bet on it! Are you willing to bet on it?
As U know, With all the recent runup in internet stocks, A lot of investors/traders/analysts are following new internet issues closely. I am sure by this time most of internet companies investors would have at least heard about PNLK. If all these people have at least put in half the trust that U have put in PNL's management, this issue would not be trading at such a depressed price levels.
Again, as I have discussed above, buying start-up as long-term investment is NOT everyone cup of tea. And many short-term traders bailed out because of no news. It takes lot of gut to stick this one out. If I remember reading correctly, although he is referring to Blue Chips stock, one of Warren Buffet favorite techniques is to buy as the point of maximum pessimistic.
U mentioned 'shortterm manipulation'. Yes! Manipualtion does occur in much hyped, startup & unproven companies. Can someone even think of manipulating stocks like INTC,MSFT or YHOO ? On the other hand they can manipulate KTEL,KLB,EGGS etc.
Unfortunately, 'short term manipulation' is all too common for any stock trading. It is all part of the trading games. You will just have to accept it as part of the overall scheme of thing. And long term play is one way to weather all this short term manipulations.
IMO A company can not be successful in LONGTERM if they can't achieve SHORTTERM goals. This is especially TRUE with startup companies like PNLK.
It is all depended on what you called 'short term goals'. If you are referring to short term 'stock' price increase, then I will have to disagree with you. Stock price increase or decrease at this early stage is nothing more than emotional trading. But short term goals like reaching 35,000 subscribers by end of next summer projected by PNL management is DEFINITELY VERY IMPORTANT to build up confidence for long term success. This I will agree wholeheartedly!
This one is surely a long reply in light of current action!
Hey, I can feel the ground shaking! Something big is coming this way?
Prosperity to ALL!
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