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To: robin 187 who wrote (50043)8/17/1998 9:29:00 AM
From: Nemer  Respond to of 58727
 
Robin :

The best advice I can give you is to buy Larry McMillian's books.
If you don't understand what Lisa said, and I see that you don't, ---- get Larry's books.
While they won't salvage you immediately, he has the best repair techinques which are relatively easy to understand and to implement.

What Pat meant, I'm sure, was that he didn't know "your" situation, not how many option contracts...... your risk tolerance, your financial situation, past profits which can make a loss less painful ,,,, etc.

Everyone here on TSO has been through what you're going through right now ...... and it IS painful.

There are lots and lots of good books out there, and as you have just seen Pat post ----- and he's been at this a looooonnnngggg time and with substantial amounts of money -----
and he's still reading and learning......
for no matter how good you get, you can always profit from reading.
McMillian just happens to be one of my favorites because it's easy to understand and very powerful repairs for a losing trade ......

Good luck .....

Regards ---- Nemer



To: robin 187 who wrote (50043)8/17/1998 9:35:00 AM
From: ViperChick Secret Agent 006.9  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 58727
 
<<< Patrick you said that you didn't have all the facts so you can't really give advice
well I have to admit I wasn't being exactly truthful about the number of options I
bought. I was embarrased by how risky I was being by buying the number that I did
and didn't want to say >>>>>>>

ROFLMAO

not at you
but at the fact that more than one person on this thread has been in that situation...

welcome to options anonymous and I have a therapy couch just for you ...we know your pain ;-)

DONT BE EMBARASSED.......besides none of us know who you are anyway...LOL

what a turnaround in the futures....

will be an interesting day

we have seen big drops in Globex..turnaround in the morning..only to tank like a rock later...be careful..

to answer your question about the horizontal time spread

you sell one month against the month you have..same strike

this is a covered spread

and allows you to play the fluctuation of let's say the AUG call..while holding your sept...

go to
www.equityanalytics.com
if you want to learn more about option spreads and other misc things

From Ike on Idea thread:
Today, I would expect the market to be very volatile. I wish I could say that there will
be a 500 point drop in Dow; looking at the charts now I can always follow the market
and talk about huge bearish approach, but this is not what my indicators tell me.
Consistency is one thing which my model maintains and it is only the macro-economic
conditions of the US - if they start changing and bonds start telling me something else, I
will have a different view. With Treasury now settling at 5.51, equity markets and dollar
assets can only be helped. Even if there is a huge fluctuation, I will be long at supports
like 1030, or even lower at 1018 (if it ever comes to that which I doubt). This kind of
extreme pessimism can result into wild fluctuations but these are unsustainable.



To: robin 187 who wrote (50043)8/17/1998 9:51:00 AM
From: Grashopper  Respond to of 58727
 
Sh-t happens but the best thing you can do is keep posting and talking. Remrmber things change! It was my losses as a trial lawyer that made me wise and better, my early victories only made me arrogant and vulnerable till i got my head handed to me a few times. If we dont wilt defeat makes us better. As my beloved wife says money can be replaced but not your health. You are not alone some pretty smart people inc me have huge losses this year. You have a wasting asset that will dissipaye on a certain so dont be afraid to salvage what you can rather then just watch it go to zero. I wish i had listened to what i am telling you. The last advice i can give is no more calls as there not for everybody inc me..just buy the stock.



To: robin 187 who wrote (50043)8/17/1998 10:58:00 AM
From: Patrick Slevin  Respond to of 58727
 
DELL options

I was not concerned about what your entire position was, I just tried to grasp what you paid for the calls and with a 30-lot it sounded like it would have been around 20 bucks or more which, to my way of thinking, was pretty expensive.

Like Nemer mentioned, a lot has to do with your own risk tolerance and personal situation. There are a lot of damage control techniques but at this point in the game I will tell you what I think the smart move is. It is always cut and run. Like you said before, it's always better to start out bullet-ridden instead of bulletproof. When you start out bulletproof it's always harder to admit you are in a bad trade. Not that it is easy at any point.

I will say this, I think a temporary inflow of offshore money may rally this market for a week or so. So if you wish to chance it the price may improve a small bit. But look for premium to start getting yanked off the calls even if DELL rallies somewhat, as Sept becomes the front month shortly.

Not to sound like a pedantic, I cannot stress enough that risk management is key in any trade and options are trickier than stocks. So if you have a loser and it exceeds your planned risk for a loss or exceeds downside expectations in general I would kick it out. Just my opinion.