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To: Sandy J who wrote (153)8/19/1998 3:04:00 AM
From: marc ultra  Respond to of 15132
 
The impeachment clause in the constitution is so vague it can be interpreted as almost anything Congress wants it to be so except perhaps in the clear case of murder or conspiracy to commit same it is a political event which is why polls are so important and why I expect Clinton to quickly get back to the many foreign and domestic issues like N.Korea's secret underground nuclear development, Iraq. terrorism etc where he can be presidential without much support from Republicans. Job performance and connection to the American people is what has given him his high approval rating and he has little choice but to again immerse himself in the problems facing the nation and try to get good soundbytes so it may make Ken Starr's continued pursuit look petty and inappropriately overzealous. I must say one thing that bugs me on this whole process is the inability to cross examine any of these witnesses so the grand jury and then the Congress only get one side of the story unless there is a trial in the Senate at which point the damage is already done

Marc



To: Sandy J who wrote (153)8/19/1998 9:06:00 AM
From: Wally Mastroly  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 15132
 
Well said.

Your choice of the word arrogance is most appropriate when applied to this President. He revealed it again in the tone of his so-called apology. For a shrewd political master I think he made a huge blunder by including the attack on Starr in his last speech. Apparently he included it over the opposition of most advisors. Even some of the Democrats are now criticizing him for doing it.

Others will now abandon this lamest of lame ducks. Unfortunately the ship of state may suffer with a "leader" that can not govern and can no longer be believed. He deserves to be impeached. If he cared at all for anything but himself he would resign now. I feel sorry for his daughter & his loyal staff - who were made to look like fools by him for the last 7 months.

It's ironic that there may not be quite enough evidence to throw the bum out & that may spare the country the agony of impeachment proceedings. Although there may be enough inconsistencies in his 2 testimonies under oath to nail him?

I think I know Brinker's reaction to this sad state of affairs, but let's hope he's on this weekend so we can hear his update on any market related issues.



To: Sandy J who wrote (153)8/19/1998 1:32:00 PM
From: Investor2  Respond to of 15132
 
RE: "What about the really important aspects of this $40M investigation, perjury and obstruction of justice? Can those things, if there is sufficient evidence, be ignored if Clinton's job approval rating remains in a bubble?"

Yes, perjury and obstruction of justice can indeed be ignored; at least, that is what I've been watching numerous Democrats on TV say over the past few days. They indicate that it is appropriate to ignore perjury and obstruction of justice because Clinton admitted wrong-doing and appologized. Besides, they say, Clinton's personal life is his own business and he is doing a much better job than those "mean-spirited" Republicans.

So, the answer to your question is: Yes, perjury and obstruction of justice can (and probably will) be ignored.

Best wishes,

I2



To: Sandy J who wrote (153)8/19/1998 2:19:00 PM
From: wooden ships  Respond to of 15132
 
Sandy- In re: "Can those things (perjury, obstruction of justice) if
there is sufficient evidence, be ignored if Clinton's job approval
rating remains in a bubble?"

According to the esteemed Zogby poll- which, among all vaunted
polling entities, was alone in predicting the magnititude of the Repub-
lican sweep of Congress in 1994 and the actual margin of victory
for Clinton in 1996- has lately measured a significant drop in pres-
idential approval. Per Zogby, the presidential reservoir of public
goodwill is draining dramatically as a result of the recent revel-
ations and confessions.