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To: Chuzzlewit who wrote (59600)8/19/1998 3:06:00 PM
From: Mohan Marette  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 176387
 
<---OT----><---Total nonsense---->

Paul:

calculating pussies (?) hummm that is a new one for me,where do I get one ?<vbg>

You said: 'Just a game that us calculating pussies engage in.'

Sorry couldn't resist,pardon me.



To: Chuzzlewit who wrote (59600)8/19/1998 3:12:00 PM
From: JPR  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 176387
 
Chuzz:
asymptotic, Chuzz, is it good or bad.<GGG>

Moron in maths JPR



To: Chuzzlewit who wrote (59600)8/19/1998 4:01:00 PM
From: LWolf  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 176387
 
Chuzz...
there was a fellow on CNBC this am that said he thought DELL's hyper growth rate was good for about 5 years. (this was repeated to me, I didn't actually hear the fellow).

laura



To: Chuzzlewit who wrote (59600)8/19/1998 4:10:00 PM
From: JPR  Respond to of 176387
 
Chuzz:
Growth will most likely be asymptotic, and Dell would never have 100% of the market.

Why do you throw these curve balls at us? <GGG>
JPR



To: Chuzzlewit who wrote (59600)8/20/1998 2:20:00 AM
From: AlanH  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 176387
 
Greetings CTC, and thanks for the formula...

Indeed, if current marketshare is given we should be able to approximate relative growth -- assuming a sustained predatory advantage. So, our challenge becomes proofing the marketshare figures. (The predatory argument belongs to those with vendor attachment.)

The "market leader" moniker [mentioned previously] is somewhat tongue-in-cheek, given all the talk of DELL's #2/#1 position. [I understand that the PR is not marketshare based, although undertones are there.] In earnest, I question that DELL's presence in the relavent PC market is 8-10%. It is my belief that DELL has a much stronger market position -- beyond business mix -- when evaluating current computing requirements. We can debate semantics of "marketshare" as a historical measure, but the fundamental issue is future consumption. And, future consumption has been approximated at 15%.

You may have read my analog of Lotus marketshare; that is, at some point Lotus had claim to ~70% of the DOS spreadsheet space. Conceptually, a similar paradigm shift may be at play with PC vendors. Herein is the conflict: we can assert that DELL has a commanding position in the market, but to do so implies that the market is/has shifted in such a way that 8-10% marketshare figure becomes meaningless -- by definition.

So, we are left with the question of whether 15% growth represents: a)an overall PC requirement, or b)net-new requirement excluding "technology refresh." To-date, I have not found a satisfactory answer to this question.

To summarize (since I ramble), we've been given 15% as a predicted PC consumption rate. IF this is related to overall requirements, then we can discount marketshare figures associated with now (presumably) inferior business models. That is, 15% = 15%.

The mention of these things is not of contempt, rather to explore the figures as real or non-real.

Curiously,
Alan