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Politics : Clinton's Scandals: Is this corruption the worst ever? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Doughboy who wrote (2018)	8/19/1998 4:11:00 PM
From: Michael Sphar	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13994

You'll soon get your chance. Nobody, and I mean nobody who matters will want him anymore, especially the Democrats and also the women of America. He's all yours, have fun.

To: Doughboy who wrote (2018)	8/19/1998 4:21:00 PM
From: j_b	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13994

<<The President (like Charles Barkley) "didn't ask to be anybody's role model>> I think this is a major point of disagreement between us. Anyone running for President IS asking to be a role model - that's part of the job. The President represents America to the world, and we all (I hope) want that to be the best representation possible, not a lying, sleazy (no, no - calm down, take a deep breath......ahhhhhh, that's better). <<but does it say word-one about his ability to govern? >> Yes it does - it says he will do whatever he wants, using any means necessary, and doesn't give much thought to the long-term consequences. Those are not attributes I want for the guy with his finger on the nuclear button.

To: Doughboy who wrote (2018)	8/19/1998 4:34:00 PM
From: Jim B	Respond to of 13994

<< to oust the President is like cutting off our nose to spite our face.>> "and if the left hand causes a man to sin... it is better that he cut it off then to continue sinning... " although just a methaphoric statement... it makes sense.. guess you and I just won't agree... I'm no bigot.. I stated repeatedly that I have LOTS of problems... as we all do... as the head of my household.. I have an obligation to my family.. if I should betray my family... then they have the right to throw me out and thus I would have to pay the consequences of my actions... if they so deemed fit.. the Presidency is no different.. the reason imho he has a 60% plus approval rating is 1) people want to feel better about their own immorality and would hate to see the PRESIDENT prosecuted for it 2) people just think that it's the norm anyway and the fact that sexual affairs are taking place in a publicly held building and office is somehow non of the taxpayers business. 3) the economy is doing well and selfishly they don't want to see ANYTHING happen that might jeapordize the government's/economy's prosperity... any of these reasons are awful imho.. my wife's parents believe in #3... pathetic.. furthermore... imho Clinton is a sex addict... and "addicts" don't do what is right.. they do what is necessary to fill the need... at virtually any expense.... I'd hate to think that an "addict" is running this country as addicts have a LONG track record of compounded lies and eventually get to a point where they neglect things of UTMOST importance and instead act out their addiction no matter what the consequences.... it's very painful... I too was once an addict of something... almost destroyed my life.. that was some time ago.. but not too long ago that I've forgotten and I thank God for my blessing today.. DougHboy, I wish you and yours the very best... I'm sorry that you get so angry over this... but imho... one should be very concerned with the quality of our leaders... but Republican and democrat... why is it that this country has more repeat crimes committed than any other country??? because we lack discipline, consequence and morality.. basically... we've learned to fudge the boundaries of what is right and what is wrong... and instead learned to "just do whatever you want... you only live once"... pitiful.. again, wishing you the best... I'll move on... jim

To: Doughboy who wrote (2018)	8/19/1998 5:05:00 PM
From: Liatris Spicata	Respond to of 13994

DougHboy- <<we're talking about here is harshly imposing a hypocritical value on the President>> Kindly let me know what hypocritical value you are referring to. May I suggest that a modicum of honesty is not too much to expect as a minimum from national leaders? From Hillary's cool $100,00 in six months of commodities trading, to her avowal in New Zealand that she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary (she was born two years after he climbed Mt. Everest), to Bill's claim of having "remembered" black churches having been burned in his boyhood (funny, none of the Arkansas papers of the day mentioned it), to his denial of having sexual relations with "that women", the Clintons have consistently demonstrated they are pathological liars and cheats. They lie when there's no real reason to lie- it's just their way! That you seem have no objection to habitual lying on the part of the President of the United States says quite a lot about your values. It astonishes me that so many people have no concern about the basic integrity of the occupant of the Oval Office. I understand that a national leader may, on rare occasions, feel the need to lie. People's lives or vital national interests may be at stake. But both the Clintons lie shamelessly for no other reason than to make themselves look good. As for what 60% of Americans believe- it is of no consequence whatsoever in assessing of truth of a situation. Arguably, in this instance, it's a good measure of the the percentage of idiots in the population. And you have the gall to refer to others as "clueless". Larry P.S. Your comment <<we all impose values on each other -- otherwise values would have no meaning>> is both shallow and silly. Your values- those things that you strive to gain or protect- speak to who you are, regardless of what others do or the influence you may have over them.