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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (163)8/20/1998 1:56:00 PM
From: Ray Emery  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 67261
 
No I don't. IMO Clinton is such a slimeball that if this is what it takes to bring him to reality then so be it.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT SEX! THIS IS ABOUT PERJURY AND SUBORNATION OF PERJURY.

I now believe that Starr's report will contain much, much, more than Monica's escapades with Bill. I also think that Starr will offer to keep the report sealed if Bill will resign and go away. Once Bill sees the report, hopefully he will realize that its time to bow out.

As I said, I am not a true blue Libertarian.... but I am becoming more so as we continue to see the government becoming more and more a Big Brother prying into every aspect of our supposedly free existence.

Ray



To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (163)8/20/1998 11:05:00 PM
From: Rarebird  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 67261
 
Michelle, it is Clinton and his Justice department that has gone too far - Way Way too far! Clinton is a closet radical liberal who loves to Tax and Spend, Tax and Spend; if he can't tax the American People directly, he'll go on the Liberal Big Brother Rampage against the Tobacco Industry, the Pharmaceutical Industry or any Company where he can get his hand on some money to spend. The issue is not sex, never was sex, hardly anyone cares about Clinton's sex life. Did the American Public care about President Kennedy and his liaison with Marilyn Monroe ( that lucky son of a gun! ). Or, FDR's numerous liaisons? No! Clinton has his enemies: 1) Tobacco Industry 2) Pharmaceutical Industry 3) Moral Majority ( MY Enemy too! ) 4) Many Veterans and the Military Complex ( unwarranted here ). I think its payback time!



To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (163)8/21/1998 12:07:00 AM
From: Wildstar  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 67261
 
Michelle,

>As a libertarian dont you feel Starr has gone too far - WAY WAY too far?

I consider myself as mostly libertarian too, but I don't think he's gone too far.

I think the reason that Bill Clinton is still in office is that a lot of people think this is a private issue. They say, we don't have the right to pry into his private life. And if he gave an untruthful answer, it's okay because the question should not have been asked. Let me try to say why I disagree and do not think this is a private issue:

1) The question was asked in a court case. It's not just like one day at a press conference about child care or the minimum wage or something, Sam Donaldson shouts, "Mr. President, did you have sex with Monica Lewinsky?" and the president replies "No," and then some right wingers hire Linda Tripp to tape Monica, and so on...

There was a court case here.

You can make the argument (albeit a weak one) that, even in a sexual harrassment suit, it is improper to ask the defendant about other sexual escapades he has had in the workplace.

You can even make the argument that, since the Jones suit was dismissed, there should be no more question of perjury.

But it's not as if one day out of the blue someone asked Clinton about his sex life and the antichrist Ken Starr has been hounding him ever since.

That's why I think that altough the question asked was relevant. It was asked in a public setting (the criminal justice system).

2) He had sex with a subordinate worker. I don't think there can be any other combination as unequal as leader of the free world, and intern. This in itself makes the issue a public issue. I sure you've heard all the analogies by now - college professor/student, CEO/intern,... - and all these relationships , although are between private individuals, have an unequal power balance in a social arena.

3) They did it in the Oval Office - a public place. If he wanted it to be private, do it somewhere else. Not at work. Some people might say, "Where do you expect him to go - a cheap motel?" Well, I think you give up some of that privacy when you become the president of the US. Reagan wouldn't even go into the oval office without a fresh suit on.

Comments?

Permission to speak freely - I think Clinton has pissed all over the Presidency and the Oval Office.