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Politics : Clinton's Scandals: Is this corruption the worst ever? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (2448)8/22/1998 12:17:00 AM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 13994
 
Regarding: Those who want to play had better have
extremely thick skins and a Mother-Teresa past.


I think that bringing up a recently deceased near saint is
a bit too much in a discussion of the President. Then again,
maybe Mother Teresa did pick up a little on the side. But
was it with her employees? People who she could fire or
order around? Did she fire her travel staff and then justify
it by making up lies about what they had done, causing
them to be criminally investigated for felonies by the FBI?
These are not little mistakes. These are the actions of
a group of people who have absolutely no respect for
the truth or what is right. They believe exactly what is
in their favor to believe, and will continue to believe it as
long as it cannot be proved against them. They really
just don't care about what the truth is. They also don't
care about what the laws are. They only care about
avoiding getting caught.

I could go on, but it makes me sick to have to look at these
things. Sure people make mistakes, but when you make
them, you apologize, swear to yourself to never to do that
again, and make yourself a better person for it. This is how
character is built. It is not an easy process.

Clinton has never apologized for anything he has ever done.
All he does is generate more lies to cover for the lies he
used earlier. He is a "person of the lie." He cannot see
his own actions as being shameful and deceitful. He is
a pathological liar and an uncontrolled sexual deviant
besides. He is not Mother Teresa. He is not even Jimmy
Swaggart.

Enough of this sad commentary on the depths to which our
expectations of personal conduct have descended. Here is
some of the speech Socrates gave when he defended himself
against the Athenian prosecutor. It gives an idea of what
a guy who didn't really care what the polls show will do,
and it shows what bravery and dedication to truth and law
is all about:

I will tell you a story from the law courts, tiresome
perhaps, but true. I have never, gentlemen, held any
office in the state but one; I was then a Councillor. It
happened that the tribe which was presiding was mine, the
Antiochis, when you wished -- illegally, as you all agreed
afterwards -- to try all the ten generals together (instead
of separately) for not gathering up the bodies of the dead
after the sea battle (Arginusai 406 BC). Then I alone of
the presidents opposed you, and voted against you that
nothing should be done contrary to law; and when the
orators were ready to denounce me and arrest me on the spot,
and you shouted out telling them to do so, I thought it
my duty to risk the danger with law and justice on my side,
rather than to be on your side for fear of prison and death.
This happened while the government was still democratic;
and when the oligarchy came in, the Thirty summoned me and
four others to the Dome, and ordered us to bring Leon of
Salamis from Salamis, whom they meant to put to death.
Such things those people used often to do to others,
wishing to make as many as possible share their guilt.
Then, however, I showed them by acts, not by words, that
as for death, if it is not too vulgar to use the expression,
I cared not one jot, but all my anxiety was to do nothing
unjust or wrong. That government did not terrify me, strong
as it was, into doing injustice; but when we came out of
the Dome, the other four went to Salamis and brought Leon,
but I went away home. And perhaps I should have been put
to death for that, if the government had not been overthrown
soon. You will find many witnesses of this.


Monica had the right phrase for Bill: "The big creep."

I really don't want to hear any more suggestions that since
we are all equally guilty (but we are not), we should all ignore
each other's personal failings. The POTUS is a leader for
all of us. His is a position of extreme power. Power tends
to corrupt. It is likely to corrupt even those able to distinguish
the difference between right and wrong, but it is guaranteed
to corrupt those who cannot. So here is my question. Can
Bill Clinton distinguish between right and wrong?

-- Carl



To: Ann Corrigan who wrote (2448)8/22/1998 2:18:00 AM
From: RJC2006  Respond to of 13994
 
Yes and this lends more credence to what I am saying. If there were an abundance of GOP lawbreakers out there do you think for five seconds the DNC wouldn't be jumping all over this? But you are right about me. Yes, I admit it. Once I did tear the tag off the bottom of my mattress. Hey, I never claimed to be fit for public office. Quite frankly I would rather take my chances on Mother Teresa then Mother Jones.