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To: dougjn who wrote (14016)8/22/1998 1:58:00 AM
From: JGoren  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 152472
 
ON TOPIC--I never thought we'd see 52 again! I am beginning to think, for the first time, that if Ericy were smart, it would initiate an immediate tender offer at 65 and be prepared to raise to 75 while the market is down.



To: dougjn who wrote (14016)8/22/1998 5:23:00 AM
From: John Cuthbertson  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 152472
 
<OT> Taichi and dougjn,
Sorry, not inclined to cut Slick any slack. (You, Taichi, I'll give some slack, but Presidents really must be held to higher standards.)

"we're not talking a crew of burglars in the White House basement, millions in hush money..."
-- hundreds of thousands for Web Hubbell. And there have certainly been reports that other past bimbo eruptions have been quieted by hush money. Now those may or may not be true, but that is what we're talking about.

"... or taking an enemies list to the FBI/CIA/IRS."
-- 900 FBI files illegally in the White House; files on Republicans, coincidentally.

"Let's have some perspective PLEASE"
--OK. I am guessing that your perspective is that of one of those Baby Boomers for whom Nixon is the Great Satan. But to me, it really seems that the thoroughgoing corruption of the Clinton administration is much worse than Watergate and the coverup of the "third-rate burglary." Nixon's worst fault was really in choosing some unsavory associates (e.g. Gordon Liddy) and failing to rein them in. In the Clinton White House, the bad element seems to be Clinton himself. For all his faults, Nixon was truly concerned about the good of the country, and resigned when he was brought around to see that that was best for the nation. Clinton is a complete Narcissist who will have to be dragged out kicking and screaming. (Perhaps this was, as they said in Spinal Tap, "too much ****ing perspective!")

Dougjn,
"Lying about his private behavior in a situation where it shouldn't have been demanded under oath doesn't bother me much at all....Now if it were a serious criminal trial, and the testimony was unquestionably relevant, somehow, that would be different."

So you're suggesting we should have a system in which defendants in lawsuits can decide whether they need to testify truthfully based on their opinion of the legitimacy of the suit against them? Get serious!

==John