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To: jach who wrote (52572)8/22/1998 12:06:00 PM
From: Bindusagar Reddy  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 61433
 
Jach, you do make some interesting contradicting points.
You are not taking into account explosive growth in the internet resulting in increase in demand for the RAC/FR/ ATM products. ASND is a pureplay in this field.

<<now csco with thier new TGX and MGX switches will
strongly compete with 500 and 550; advantages for
TGX and MGX is that they are also core +>> THIS IS A JOKE

AS for the CSCO, wallstreet loves it now, one reason it is a large cap, other reason, they think they can do no wrong. In technology anything can happen in one quarter.

They are severely behind in CORE switching. This is a commentary by one technical person who knows CSCO products,

"The TGX was developed
by the Lightstream group and is a second generation
LightStream 1010 (due early 1999)- it is basically an
upgrade to the LAN based LS1010.
It uses the MMC chip set that can be found in the
LS1010 and has nothing to do with the Stratacom
products....NO stratacom engineer worked on the
TGX. The TGX has nothing to do with the original
STRM products and it's positioning as a "core"
switch shows what a dismal failure the STRM
acquisition was. NO new products have been
developed by the STRM engineers and the 20 GBPS
BPX that STRM was positioning in 1995 has yet to
be delivered
I'm sure that you are familiar with the configuration
of the BPX - and any 20 Gbps BPX requires a control
card called the BCC-4. Although the BCC-4 has been
on the price list for over a year...it's still not
available until the end of the year.
If you have time...run a search on Cisco press
releases and find one dated Sept. 23rd 1996. Cisco
talks about Stratacom equipment scaling to 20 Gbps
and supporting IOS and Tag switching...nothing has
happened
No IOS integration, no tag switching, no 20 Gbps."

"Back to the TGX, although I cannot 100% prove it (I
can for everything above), I think that the TGX is a
renamed Catalyst 8500 MSR (not CSR), They both
have the MMC chipset, same port densities and
bandwidth, etc... So, I think that Cisco took the LAN
based 8500 and is just renaming it the TGX and
positioning it as a Carrier Core switch - very lame.
Especially since the TGX is based on the MMC
AnyFlow 5000 chipset which is designed for lan
traffic...it has a packet shreading function which is
totally not needed in a Core ATM switch..PLUS the
OC-48 interface from MMC (called an XPIF) is not
available for customer tests until
December/January..which means that while Ascend
has been shipping OC-48c for the GX 550, Cisco
engineers are sitting and waiting for MMC to deliver
test chips. SO, Cisco won't be shipping OC-48c until
mid-1999 - A full year later than Ascend...And forget
seeing OC-48 on the BPX - the architecture won't
support it."

I gathered the above information from a knowledgable person very familiar with both ASND and CSCO equipments.
Just wait 6 months and look back at my posts. You will understand it very well.

BR




To: jach who wrote (52572)8/22/1998 5:58:00 PM
From: Gary Korn  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 61433
 
now csco with thier new TGX and MGX switches will strongly compete with 500 and 550; advantages for TGX and MGX is that they are also core + multiservice edge which asnd lacks in the edge area; imo, from this point on asnd will face tougher times

jach,

I realize I may get roasted for this, but I agree. You've identified the problem with all technology leads -- they evaporate. AMD put pricing pressure on INTC (even with AMD's far more limited production capacity); LU etc. put pricing pressure on CIEN; CSCO etc. will put pricing pressure on ASND's products, even if they are great.

Now, ASND has a wonderfully rich customer base and is expanding its tentacles with SRA (which may prove to be a move as good as CSCC). That makes it a solid company.

Still, you should not ignore pricing pressures, which I take to be the essence of your point.

Regards,
Gary Korn