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Pastimes : Linux OS.: Technical questions -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: E. Charters who wrote (78)	8/22/1998 5:03:00 PM
From: Mitch Blevins	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 484

EC - I agree with most you say, but... >>But if you have a Keyboard lockup, U_ARE_F____D.<< Usually you can map (thru gpm) an obscure mouse sequence to initiate an orderly shutdown (hold down the left mouse button while triple-clicking the right) or to switch to a different console. If the lockup is just X-related, you can use a different virtual console to initiate an orderly shutdown, or just to kill X (which will usually get back control without having to reboot). Alternatively, if _all_ input devices are locked, you can access it from another computer on the network and restore order. I think the robustness of Linux can not be emphasized enough. I've been running it for almost 1 year, and have _never_ had to hard reboot (push the reset button on the front of the computer). I have had to involutarily reboot to restore system sanity only twice, and this is because I was "pushing the envelope". Read: using a beta Window Manager while using two simultaneous input devices (mouse and tablet) under high load I agree that Netscape is under-par compared with the rest of the system, and I've had it crash out on numerous occasions. But I've never had it take X with it. -Mitch BTW - Have you heard of the Berlin project? It is a non-X based windowing system/desktop environment being designed to address many of the shortcomings of X. Currently vaporware, but interesting. Sorry, don't have the URL handy.

To: E. Charters who wrote (78)	8/22/1998 7:40:00 PM
From: g_m10	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 484

Crashing computers? Sounds like a MS Windows man. Yes. It is about Windows. He is a college student and works in tech. support for one of the local ISP. I have seen keyboard lockups. They are supposed to time out. But I let one run once for 1 hour and finally rebooted and had to e2fsck to get the file system back. May be it was just a matter of setting the time. I read that Linux can be upgraded to RTOS - Real Time Operating System. One of the important features of any RTOS is a Time Watchguard. It reboots the system after a certain period of time if it got locked out.