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To: Eric Yang who wrote (63140)	8/23/1998 1:42:00 AM
From: rudedog	Respond to of 186894

Eric - For mainstream disk drive manufacturers to get serious about 1394, they will need to see the volume. USB is taking off because the 50 million or so PCs shipping next year (and another 50 million or so USB capable systems already sold) provide a base for volume sales, and OS capability from MS is what makes that happen. I have had several USB capable PCs on my desk for more than a year, with no real hardware or OS support to make USB useful. IBM has lost the ability to drive enough volume to move the industry. Apple also does not have that ability. The reality of today's market is that technology providers follow the capability provided by Intel and MS. If supporters of 1394 do not get one or the other, and preferably both, firewire will just be another interesting footnote, to be superceded by a different (not necessarily better) standard. Somebody needs to maintain an atmosphere where creative ideas can go from concept to reality. But if the world is to benefit from those ideas, the practical and much less exciting process of moving the idea through the industry machine needs to occur. It is a very rare and powerful technology which can succeed simply on its merits.

To: Eric Yang who wrote (63140)	8/23/1998 4:23:00 AM
From: d[-_-]b	Respond to of 186894

Eric, RE: Apple's new iMac adopted USB for all peripheral expansion devices. Who is pushing the technology? Hummmm, perhaps Intel! I believe if you check the chipset on any x86 machine less than two years old - you'll find USB in the "chips" from Intel - soooo Intel provided the technology and did what they could to push the technology almost two years before Apple. We just had to wait for Microsoft and peripheral manufacturers to catch up. One significant difference in your little "who's one first" nonsense, is that Intel doesn't actually build computers and OS'es like Apple does - so your comparison is kind of dumb. Vendors asked Intel not to integrate Firewire just yet due to the extra cost. Besides Firewire is available for PC's, just not from Intel in the form of a chipset - yet! Copper? You just got my two cents.