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Politics : Clinton's Scandals: Is this corruption the worst ever? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Doughboy who wrote (3056)	8/25/1998 10:37:00 AM
From: j_b	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 13994

I am having some trouble with your comments - did the Democrats control the Congress after the 1992 elections? What happened to the Republican victories? If the Republicans had control of the Congress after the 1992 elections, how could the Democrats have passed the 1993 stimulus package? <<By your argument, Ronald Reagan cannot take credit for the tax cut in the early 1980s that he always crowed about as his greatest achievement.>> I agree - I don't give Reagan credit for the tax cut. Personally, I think Reagan's greatest achievement was in restoring the prestige of the Presidency and of the U.S. - in effect, he was a figurehead and a role model, not a legislator. As to your comments regarding the government shutdown - that was definitely part of the Congressional attempt to lower spending and balance the budget. It helped provide the impetus needed for both sides to compromise and come to a balanced budget. Not everyone blamed Congress for the shutdown, or there would have been no compromise. <<Tax increases (love 'em or hate 'em) do that. >> When the "Reagan tax cut" <g> was proposed, and when the "JFK tax cut" was discussed, it was noted that tax cuts increase revenues and tax increases decrease revenues, because they change the way people do business. I wonder which is correct?

To: Doughboy who wrote (3056)	8/25/1998 8:31:00 PM
From: RJC2006	Respond to of 13994

<<(By your argument, Ronald Reagan cannot take credit for the tax cut in the early 1980s that he always crowed about as his greatest achievement.)Clinton was responsible for writing it, negotiating it, and getting it through the Senate and the House. >> Only a quarter-wit would assert that anyone other than Congress is responsible for law. <<<There was such anger among shortsighted voters who blasted the law as a tax increase, they threw the Democrats out of control of the House and Senate in 1994.>>> And who says voters aren't informed? <<<The GOP and Clinton agreed to cut taxes in 1997--only after it was clear that the deficit was drawing down and Clinton agreed to do it.>>> Yeah, the elections in 1996 had no bearing on that as Democrats who were supposedly going to take back the Congress once again watched their dreams go up in (cigar) smoke. <<<Tax increases (love 'em or hate 'em) do that. >>> If this is entirely true then the tax hikes under George Bush would have done it and it didn't. Even a child knows that no matter how much money you get if you spend more than you have coming you will incur a deficit. A responsible spending plan that allows revenues to be higher than expenditures will lead directly to deficit reduction. <<<I want to argue on the merits of the Clinton stimulus package (did the tax increase reduce the federal deficit?), but it's hard to do that when your false picture of recent history leaves you wanting to argue about which Party should take credit.>>> Translation: "I'm a liberal therefore I am right and you are wrong" "It's about spending, stupid"