Hi Mitchell Ryan; You are quite right about the quality problems with the US auto makers.
Perhaps the US makers refused to compete in the small car market because of those quality problems. For whatever reason, they did not compete, and they did lose market share.
DELL does not have a quality problem that prevents them from competing in the low end, as far as I know. They are unable to compete in the low end for other reasons.
I tend to agree with you that those box makers who do compete in the low end get shafted cause margins are slim and support requirements are high (support requirements are high relative to the gross profit margins, I suppose.) My point is not that the low end is a healthy environment. My point is that all the box makers are going to be competing in the low end around 3 years from now. Most of the high end market is going to dry up. That part which is left will still have pretty good margins, but it will be a much smaller market over all, and there will therefore be room for a much smaller number of players in it. The ones to bet on (barely profitable) survival in the high end market, are those at the highest end of that market.
Market segment collapse is something that has repeatedly happened to the various parts of the computer industry. This is a normal part of the evolution of the computer industry. Like the biological theory of punctuated equilibrium, the computer industry has stable market segments that last a decade or two. Then those segments are eliminated in a sudden burst of cost reduction. This is not the continuous cost reduction that you see in a normal market segment, but a really large change in pricing.
One of the things you come to realize from designing equipment to be manufactured in high volume, is how important small price differences are. Engineers generally choose the cheapest way of achieving a given requirement. A small change in price can cause a lot of engineers to suddenly switch choices. When this happens, the company supplying the newly popular solution starts to have volume manufacturing advantages, and their cost advantage increases. At first, systems on a chip will be (are) more expensive. But pricing depends on volume, and volume (i.e. numbers of units sold) depends on how low pricing is. When a company first gets a price advantage, their volume skyrockets, further reducing their costs. This is why revolutionary design changes cause discontinuous pricing changes.
Staying on the top of the heap in the computer industry is not an easy thing to do. It takes a lot of guts to realize that your industry is about to downsize. Nobody who works at a computer maker wants to believe that, and humans, by and large, believe only what they desire to believe. This is a hard tendency for management to resist, especially as their subordinates are much more likely to tell them what they believe they want to hear, rather than the tough truth.
Did IBM ignore the microcomputer market because they knew that the development of that market would inevitably destroy their high margins? At the time, this was believed in the industry. That is, that IBM couldn't develop micros because of the competition with all their higher price, higher margin products.
IBM survived not getting into the micro business on the ground floor, and, in fact, were able to create the standard clone, even though they were quite late. DELL doesn't have that kind of market clout, and in IBM's case, the PC standards ran away from them anyway.
Now the industry has a standard computer, so there is no problem with a plethora of incompatible machines. This means that the competition is strictly one of cost.
-- Carl
P.S. My data shows Ford growing at a much faster rate than a lot of semiconductor houses, (like NSM, TXN, etc., but certainly not INTC) over the last 20 years, in terms of sales per share. How fast has IBM grown compared to Ford? I should look this up. In any case, past growth rates are not why we buy stocks, but instead, we have to guess what future growth rates will be. DELL, like everything else on this planet, will die someday. My prediction for that demise (or at least very tough times) is far enough in the future that I am not currently short the stock.
P.P.S. When DELL broke a new high today, I bought it as a daytrade, as my observation has been that DELL usually punches through its new all time highs with good follow through. (Though it usually jigs back a quarter or so before making the final break.) My suspicion is that this is due to amatuers buying the new high, and my ability to profit from it comes from being faster. (I'm directly connected to the Nasdaq computers.)
P.P.P.S. The secondary market was absolutely horrible today. If this is the best we can do for a rally the week after an intraday 280 point Dow loser, I would suggest that the large cap stocks are probably going to follow the small cap ones into the toilet. Of course, since I daytrade, I will not normally leave a position open overnight.
-- Carl |