To: Michael T Currie who wrote (4488 ) 8/26/1998 8:37:00 PM From: Cliff Daniel Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 15313
My original message in italics His reply in bold/italics My new reply in regular.Let's see. Home Link Corp, NovaTek, Mountain Energy, Alliance Industries, Twenty First Century Health, Combined Companies International, Eventemp Corporation,Sky Scientific. I'll stop there because it looks like I just crashed the state of nevada's search engine. In fact it would appear to me that over 50% of all corporations that were halted by the SEC were incorporated in the state of Nevada.You've named seven. If you don't have statistical, verifiable evidence, then that last statement is unwarranted. Okay. I will not spoon feed you but I will point you in the right direction. Do you do any legwork? Does THAT sound familiar? Try sec.gov and sos.state.nv.us . You will find all the statistical, verifiable evidence that you require.> Some reasons why Nevada is attractive to penny scams: Officers and Directors can not be sued for the activities of the Corporation. No "information sharing agreement" with the IRS, the only state to do this. Officers have the most control. They can authorized more shares and issue those shares without bringing it to a shareholder vote. They change directors at the drop of at hat. They can do all of that you never notify you. A Nevada corporation basically makes up the rules as they go. They don't have to disclose any information ont he Directors other than their name and address. References, please. Sigh. I'm beginning to wonder if you know what DD is. This information is trivial to get. But most hypsters don't rely on real information when playing the stock market. Again I point you to sos.state.nv.us . That is a starting point. Search the net for Nevada Corporation Laws. Read all you can and then apply deductive reasoning. I answered that already. But to be complete the answer is no. I have not yet talking to MS about any of my concerns. Am I the only one who wants to know the answers to these questions? Or is everyone just want to be left alone in they Happy Place?Yes, you did. And no one can understand why you don't go directly to the source of your concerns if your true mission is to get at the truth rather than simply create unrest on this thread for some nefarious reason I'm curious as to why any of you longs don't have the answers to the simple questions. You are after all religious promoters of this stock. One would expect the promoters to have a clue (tm).Again they will justify way they chose to do this whether they think it was right or wrong. I don't have plenty of free time. The hype here is keeping me plenty busy these days. As soon as the heat comes the head cheerleader (Bill Fortune) is ready to move to another thread. I won't even comment on the irony in the first and second sentences other than to say 'get a life'. I am curious why you picked FNTN as your target, though. This is a company that seems far more on the level than the vast majorityof BB stocks. There are a lot of MTEI types around. No challenge for you? All of the BB stocks SEEM to be a pot of gold. All the hypsters reference is what they are going to do when "This stock goes to the moon!!! . There are a lot of MTEI types around no doubt. I am only one person though <g> I do think that is off topic. But I will tell you it's worth about 8 billion dollars. And it's listed on the NAZ.So you say. However, I sort of like to be able to call up the company switchboard and ask for the person in question. Otherwise, you could be anyone, understand? I understand. But I don't like the idea of possibly a freak calling my place of employment for whatever reasons that they might have. I never said that. But as a good measure, believe none of what you see and half of what you hear. My entire evaluation is based on new releases and past performance. So far there has been no product and shares are being printed every quarter. Did they ever put out a press release or notify it's shareholders that they were going to do that? Thanks to the Nevada Corporation laws they don't have to tell you jack. First, you really need to stop saying 'printing shares every quarter'. Yes, total shares have increased quite a lot, but you don't know when. This is another example of your completely negative spin on every subject. Second, 'new releases and past performance' limits you tremendously. For that matter, you don't know what the past - or present - performance really is. Use all of the available information and separate the wheat from the chaff Negative spin? Anyone can read the past press releases and see that the oustanding shares has grown by an average of 6.5 million shares each quarter. That is fact. You are wrong about judging the past. You can always judge the past. And people should judge the past in order to make judgement on the present. Simple rule of thumb. How so? Lurker's corner seems to think you guys (the public) own over 8,000,000 shares. And there is only 19,000,000 outstanding? I just find it hard to believe that over 50% of the total oustanding shares are sitting in a public float. Don't you? I absolutely do not believe that the Lurker's Corner figures are accurate. I think that they are misleading I posted a message stating same some time back. Just yesterday, Harry said that he thought it was inaccurate. So go find a person who actually believes those figures. I findyour terminology ('sitting in a public float ') somewhat curious. It seems certain that more than 50% of the shares are in the float. 13+ million is the quoted number. Do you really not understand what the definition of float is? Then why does that person post that here everyday? That is misleading people. Is there a double standard when it comes to pro hype and anti-bashing? Anyone potential investor who hasn't read this thread before will see that and think what a good thing they can get. All along it's a lie. As far as the float issue I'll leave that alone because it's like talking to a fence post. [snip all the market capitalization stuff] So you say they have a market cap of 22 million. How much revenue are they generating again? Is it less than 5 million? Is this hyped to 4x it's real value? Of course I'm not taking into account debt, which seems to average 600,000 a quarter judging from the past press releases. Oh and don't make reference to Internet stocks trading way above their value either. Those are on the big boards, this is on the dart board. I do understand those complex issues. Every day I work on design and implementation of a world wide backbone of terrabyte speeds. Voice over IP, Fax over IP, SS7. You name it with the Internet and I'm working on it. Very interesting. Why can't you spell 'terabyte' correctly? Most professionalscan manage to write the jargon of their own trades accurately. Oh shoot! You got me. I really work for Taco Bell! Are far as jargon. Most professionals use the short form :-) Nice try. You should try to channel your personal attack energy into something a little more constructive. All of your other comments that were left out were humorous. You are skirting around the bush avoiding the real questions at hand, that being FNTN. Stay on topic and show your true colours. After reading your answers these questions, there are a few too many holes in your story for my taste. Do you have any substantial information to discredit the information that I posted? Something other than "I don't believe you"? Again stop avoiding the real questions and start getting to the bottom of things. Cliff