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To: Jeff Lins who wrote (12125)8/26/1998 8:41:00 PM
From: Brian Lempel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 13925
 
There are really 2 answers to your question:

1. SB Live price will be lowered to probably $129 for a stripped down version that will compete more directly with Vortex2. Given the choice, I would suspect that most will still go with Live given the backwards compatability, excellent exposure, and rave reviews.

2. CREAF will also have a Banshee board. You have to figure that the DIMD combo will be very stripped down, with poor software bundles (unless they are purposely trying to drive themselves out of business as ChingLee suggested on the Yahoo board). Gamers definitely go for the software, even at a higher pricee. This is why CREAF has done poorly, relative to DIMD, with retail Voodoo II. Even though I feel that the CREAF bundle was more impressive, and included more full title, DIMD did a good job of hyping their bundle, and making it appear that they offered the better deal. I don't think this will be the case for the $199 combo.

DIMD is really hurting. Graphics margins are in the dirt. To even be competitive with SB Live, they have to destroy audio margins as well. They are also operating on risky ground by offering as their marquee product the vortex2, which may very well be pulled off the market.

Brian



To: Jeff Lins who wrote (12125)8/26/1998 9:07:00 PM
From: Savoirman  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 13925
 
By the time the Diamond products ship in October Creative will be ready to drop prices and offer upgraded versions of SB Live (with perhaps more hardware streams and AC-3). Anyway, SB Live is selling for about $160 at some of the on-line sites I see. The margins on this thing are HUGE basically because Creative's been working on this for two years, and as a matter of policy they expense immediately all R&D costs. So all it costs to make the card now is just manufacturing. I estimate gross margins around 70%-80% meaning halving the price will still give 20-30%.



To: Jeff Lins who wrote (12125)8/27/1998 8:30:00 AM
From: jeff lipschutz  Respond to of 13925
 
you raise some good points....but there are still the oem deals...
and most people still upgrade themselves.... i agree they have to pull their heads out of the sand and be more "bundle" friendly...but i also think that the dvd's are gaining momentum and will help carry this
company to the next level....provided they keep AHEAD not follow the
competition.....lips