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To: nommedeguerre who wrote (20760)	8/26/1998 11:50:00 PM
From: Bearded One	Respond to of 24154

>>Microsoft has more than 5,000 people working on the 30 million-plus lines of code that comprise NT 5.0. >Sounds like a company trying to save its ass I figure Fred Brook's famous quote is in order right about now. Adding manpower to a late software project makes it later. From "The Mythical Man Month," by Fred Brooks, who oversaw the OS/360 program for IBM in the 60's which consumed 5000 man years of work. It seems that Microsoft is going to put that number to shame.

To: nommedeguerre who wrote (20760)	8/27/1998 1:33:00 PM
From: Charles Hughes	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 24154

>>> Unstructured Rapid Prototyping or Just In Time Testing :-) What was that book somebody published about the wonderful MSFT development techniques and strategy? What a load. Still, lets not go overboard. The mythical man month effect can be avoided in part, if those folks are distributed in lots of little teams of 4 or 5 people doing individual device drivers and so forth. Windows still has a lot of very discrete components. Presuming they don't spend all their time reporting to management, filling out forms, going to meetings, or trying to figure out what to do next. Having done all this predatory 'integration' will have hurt the modularity that allows that kind of small team to work, of course. But when they say 5000 programmers, that may include the Word NT 5 team, the Exchange NT 5 team, and so forth. I recently have been getting offers for the 'pre-release' version of the C++ compiler. Hopefully at least that is close to being final, or they are screwed. Presuming that they are using their own development tools. But hey, I've got NT 3.51sp4, and Win95OSR2, and I'm not in a hurry. I notice that in spite of the nasty market the last few days MSFT is still above 110. Folks seem to have the impression this is a shelter from the storm, like a Dow component, utility, etc. I hope they don't learn the hard way this is a software company stock. Chaz