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To: Elizabeth Andrews who wrote (1001)8/27/1998 2:18:00 AM
From: E. Charters  Respond to of 1092
 
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To: Elizabeth Andrews who wrote (1001)8/27/1998 3:17:00 AM
From: E. Charters  Respond to of 1092
 
Well, the people who do not understand what Diogenes meant by virtue is the only good did not see that the solipsist is reflecting the world in himself solely because he can know no other reality. So the person who sees that personal virtue is, seen from the outside, a narrow life of ascetic suppression actually cannot see that the beholder is the beholden. So personal virtue means all the purity of thought as well, that analyses and affects its outside world. In essence the good life is manipulated by the conscious mind in a rational manner, it cannot be achieved without rational thought. This precedes and underlies the rationalist, Immanuel Kant. Pure reason then is the outflow of the Cynic. What he manipulates in himself he does in others as the only means of actuation. Otherwise he stagnates or is aimless. Thus comes economy of action as a means of arriving at truth. In the lessons of Diogenes we see Occams razor cutting at unnecessary cause as wrong. Without the economy of Diogenes and the purity of rational thought we would not have Augustine or the Philosophes. It is the attempt to arrive at the essence of assumption by discarding all without and all within that clouds the germ of truth from which all thought must start and all starting must think.

Virtue was in Diogenes' mind truth. From truth flowed correctness of action, necessity and good. Evil and error contradicted truth and virtue. Thus in virtue or rational good lay the seed of wisdom. So virtue preceded all truth. It was the basis of reason and the cause of action. Non virtuous action contradicted itself because it sought to defeat virtue thus was doomed to failure. In action however lay some flaw at all times. And no action towards a good could do all good. But without this action no good would be done. So the rational of a conscious effort to control a virtuous life follows. So the credo of rational action to preserve good by some calculated cost was born. This is the basis of cost benefit analysis and military planning.

Out of this as well have purity of the knights code and love conquers all.

It is interesting to note that Plato thought that the love of knowledge and the ideal of love of the mind was the highest and best form of love. In that could be incorporated carnal love as well which could be a type of manifestation of all those non carnal types that were higher. So the modern vernacular interpretation of Plato's platonic love is a denial of his holistic philosophy that while it distinguished between kinds of a thing did in no way say that the separation of such in life was desirable.

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To: Elizabeth Andrews who wrote (1001)8/27/1998 5:29:00 AM
From: E. Charters  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1092
 
echarter: (e*jah*tuh) adj., n 1. A thing that is never wrong and always right. 2. Cannot be argued with, perfect, irrefutable. 3. Irresistible and obvious in process of reason as in, "It is an echarter conclusion that the day follows night" [from latin, echarteris, "of or from a document that proclaims truth"], {also old saxon, ejarter, "nightime chicken thief"}