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To: wallacestevens who wrote (855)	8/27/1998 4:37:00 PM
From: Ray Emery	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

Who said anything about imposing guns and bibles on anyone. The only true libertarian would allow such things to be available to those who wish to own them. If you don't want them thats your business. I will be the last to tell you what you must do or not do. This is still a free country. I will not impose my beliefs on anyone, but that does not mean that I don't have the right to state my faith or my opinion.

To: wallacestevens who wrote (855)	8/27/1998 6:45:00 PM
From: RJC2006	Respond to of 67261

<<<Says wallace, In fact, there is a nice example of a difference between libertarian and liberal values in Michelle's position on minimum wage laws compared to mine. >>> The world according to wallace <<My liberal stance demands them as a way of protecting an exploitable class (low-wage workers) from their unduly powerful exploiters.>>> The world according to Marx The average price of wage-labor is the minimum wage, i.e. that quantum of the means of subsistence which is absolutely requisitie to keep the laborer in bare existence as a laborer. What, therefore, the wage-laborer appropriates by means of his labor, merely suffices to prolong and reproduce a bare existence...All that we want to do away with is the miserable character of this appropriation, under which the laborer lives merely to increase capital, and is allowed to live only insofar as the interest of the ruling class requires it.

To: wallacestevens who wrote (855)	8/27/1998 6:49:00 PM
From: RJC2006	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

In fact, there is a nice example of a difference between libertarian and liberal values in Michelle's position on minimum wage laws compared to mine. The world according to wallace <<My liberal stance demands them as a way of protecting an exploitable class (low-wage workers) from their unduly powerful exploiters.>>> The world according to Marx "The average price of wage-labor is the minimum wage, i.e. that quantum of the means of subsistence which is absolutely requisitie to keep the laborer in bare existence as a laborer. What, therefore, the wage-laborer appropriates by means of his labor, merely suffices to prolong and reproduce a bare existence...All that we want to do away with is the miserable character of this appropriation, under which the laborer lives merely to increase capital, and is allowed to live only insofar as the interest of the ruling class requires it." -The Communist Manifesto