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To: derek cao who wrote (23538)8/28/1998 3:37:00 PM
From: akidron  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 70976
 
unfortunately the history of capitalism would beg to differ. bankers tend to lend to those from which they can get the highest return, and in an expansion, opportunity for sane lending gradually diminishes, and bankers then lend to whoever.... greed driving the wagon. its too boring to provide a complete list but in the 90's you've had east european, russian, japanese domestic and foriegn, latin american, and numerous corporate examples of this from metal's co's in germany, to chip co's in korea, to oil co's in russia, to real estate co's in HK. Money goes to where the highest rates of returns are and then guess what... when it all blows, who is left holding the baby.... we are. However, again, it is my opinion that the primary reason to the debacle affecting us now is the inequality of wealth distribution world wide, which has negatively affected the demand side of the market equation. Microsoft is a good example. It sells a bunch of software, and makes extraordinary profits, based not on technologicAL leadership but monopoly power. The prime benificeries of these extraordinary profits are 1000 microsoft employees that live as result an extraordinary lifestyle and Paul Allen and Bill Gates are now richer than all but one country in Africa, and a bunch of others around the world. computor users suffer however as they have become saddled with only one os choice and have had to pay too much for it, giving them less money to spend on other products. unfettered microsoft will lever this market power into other related (net) and unrelated (cable etc) areas. As this is not acceptable and as the market is unable to shackle MSFT itself, the govenment is gradually stepping in to regulate it ---- figure this if intel isn't powerfull enough to resist msft's monopoly power, who is? ... only your uncle sam.



To: derek cao who wrote (23538)8/28/1998 4:00:00 PM
From: Katherine Derbyshire  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 70976
 
>>My questions: why private companies do not need disclosure? Is the "Public" in
public company means anything to you? <<

You're missing my point, I think deliberately.

Investors in private companies do generally have a fair amount of information about the company's finances. Non-investors have no need for the information, as they have nothing at risk.

(On the example of the plumber, I don't need to know his balance sheet, but I do have a need to know whether he's licensed or not. And he's required to make that information available.)

My point is not that private companies should be transparent, but that PUBLIC companies in other parts of the world do not disclose as much or as accurate information as PUBLIC companies in the US do. For examples, start with the recent Wall Street Journal article about Russian accounting practices and move on to the great mystery about exactly how much bad debt Japanese banks have. Many of the proposed reforms in both countries have to do with these kinds of issues.

>>IMHO, Russian's trouble was caused by the gap between "unlimited commitment"
of government and limited revenue of their raw material export which is hammered
by the aisa flu. And Aisa flu is caused by unsustainable saving rate of AVERAGE
asia people.<<

I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. The Asian people are still saving as much, or more, than they ever did, which suggests that their savings rate is indeed sustainable.

>>Re:300% debt-to-equity ratio?

Which is caused by government intervention. Without government's back or IMF's,
no people in their right mind will loan them the money. <<

The debt-to-equity ratio got that high before the IMF was involved. I don't know enough about it to know if Citicorp et al actually knew about the ratio and decided it was okay. If they did, Citicorp shareholders should sue the corporate officers to within an inch of their lives.

Katherine