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To: Terrapin who wrote (4880)8/30/1998 1:27:00 PM
From: Joseph G.  Respond to of 78516
 
<< So what do you look for in a company in this environment?>>
Just wait a year hoping things clear out a bit?

<<if the Fed lowers rates as some have suggested, the dividend of even a no-growth company like US Steel starts to look attractive! >>

In 1933 DJIA paid 11.2% (after the cuts) while discount rate was 2.5%.
In 1949 DJIA paid 7.9% with discount rate of 1.5% and 20 year treasury at 2.5%.

Point being if you buy at 5% div, price can still decline by, say, 70% - happened before.

<<For the past decade companies have forsaken a healthy dividend yield for stock buybacks (if this assertion is wrong please correct me).>>
Few did, like IBM, in order to offset sales/earnings decline.
Many more, like MRK, issued more new shares in option plans then they actually bot back. Buybacks are publicized, option dilution is not.

As far as I know most Cos. don't carry own stock bot back on their books, but "retire" or reissue it.



To: Terrapin who wrote (4880)8/30/1998 4:58:00 PM
From: James Clarke  Respond to of 78516
 
No because the denominator of ROE is book value, not market value.