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To: Ed Yander who wrote (10410)	8/30/1998 11:34:00 PM
From: Daniel Schuh	Respond to of 74651

Nice ad hominem, Ed. Also, good straw man argument. Maybe you're ready for the Reginald Middleton school of cheesy high school debate techniques, he's got them all down. Where did Nicholas Petreley come into this? What are you talking about, anyway? NT has features up the gazoo, for sure, but that can be a problem too, you know. And, I assure you, I'm by no means a Sun partisan, despite being a Java advocate. I've credited Sun as being the original "embrace and demolish" people, on the Unix front, and when "Java chips" supposedly proved Scott McNealy's nefarious intent, I always said, uh, maybe, but maybe they won't work so good. Sparc isn't my favorite architecture either, the register window thing is basicly a loser based on tiny benchmark programs run by Dave Patterson's students too many years ago. Java's a good idea, it has its problem, but it deserves to live or die on its merits, not on how successful Bill's sabotage and subvert strategy is. Of course, Microsoft must be free to "innovate", but that freedom doesn't extent to anyone else, like with Bill and Andy Grove. I don't criticize Sun's problems much because I don't see people talking about Sun taking over the world much these days. I seldom criticize co-conspirator Intel either, they got good engineering, and this quaint habit of letting their lawyers take care of legal matters, not the PR guys. Cheers, Dan.

To: Ed Yander who wrote (10410)	8/30/1998 11:38:00 PM
From: Daniel Schuh	Respond to of 74651

Microsoft releases Beta 2 of NT 5.0, points to shortcomings infoworld.com A couple weeks old, just for you Ed. Nicolas Petreley has an infoworld column, but I don't see his name anywhere here. "Although it looks similar to NT 4.0, NT 5.0 is really a completely new OS that happens to have backward compatibility with NT 4.0 and Win9x," said one tester who had tested the Beta 2 build before the workshop. "Some of the things Microsoft has done, such as adding Device Manager, are welcome changes. But other things, such as Network Connections, are really a step backwards. And the big things Microsoft has promised -- Terminal Server services, IntelliMirror, etc. -- aren't working as advertised." Sound good to you? Microsoft's the one that's always bragging about how many lines of code are in it. Some see that as a problem, not a solution. Cheers, Dan.

To: Ed Yander who wrote (10410)	8/31/1998 12:11:00 AM
From: paul	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74651

"Why isn't Petreley criticizing the terrible quality, bloat, documentation, performance, and shipping delays of Sun's JDK?" maybe he'll get around to it but NT is keeping him pretty busy - and oh there such easy targets! Even my niece hates microsoft and shes not even 10.

To: Ed Yander who wrote (10410)	9/5/1998 6:36:00 AM
From: Daniel Schuh	Respond to of 74651

At Microsoft, it seems that distributing warm fuzzies to the press is job No. 1 infoworld.com Hey Ed, I hadn't been keeping up on Nicholas Petreley, I used to follow him but he's sometimes sort of a windbag and clown. I had to look him up, though, since I hear I share his hypocrisy. He's a clown here too, but a funny one. Enjoy. Back during pre-Windows 95 mania, Microsoft's Rick Segal led a team of evangelists to influence the press to give positive coverage to Windows. The September 1998 issue of Brill's Content magazine details that history in Elizabeth Lesly Stevens' fascinating study, called "Making Bill." In the article, Segal describes his goals and techniques: "The issue that mattered most to me was how to make sure OS/2 never got a foothold ... The whole key to this whole deal was to make sure no press person ever gets an unsatisfactory experience with our product." What I find most revealing, however, is Segal's later comment: "OS/2 was superior in every way, at the time ... There isn't a Microsoft person on the planet -- if they're being honest -- who wouldn't say that absolutely." Poor Segal, this predates Bill's new Microsoftese definition of honesty: getting the Chinese to pay for Microsoft software. That last statement is now inoperative. Nick the clown leaves us with a top ten list, it's hit and miss but I like the end. And the No. 1 thing you can do while waiting for a stable, feature-complete version of Windows NT 5.0? One word: evolve. Cheers, Dan.