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To: Gerald Walls who wrote (63619)8/31/1998 9:26:00 AM
From: Bill Jackson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Gerald, True major boxers will not do it, however the distributed screwdrive market is quite large. The chip inside is made from the same batches as the 450+ pentiums and so is designed to run fast. I do not think intel would detune the line to make a few slow ones. I think they are all fast. The speed bins are starved at 300 Mhz(ie they will all run faster easily) The price saving is so large that you can overclock to 450, using a gonzo fan, and if it fails in six months throw it away and buy a real 450 P-II and save as the P-II will have fallen by more than the celeron first cost.

Remember the screwdriver shops account for 50% of Wintels sold. Those thousands of small shops are collectively enormous in influence. Already you can buy the overclocked celerons in Toronto, and they tell you right up front. What US person is unaware of souping up a car and getting less reliability?, same for PCs. Business care a bit less and will opt for the sure thing, but they buy more from the major boxers anyway. The screwdriver shops will sell a load this way by switching from P-II. AMD also has a big presence in toronto SD shops, far more than last year. this P-II shortage scared them and now they are committed to 2 suppliers, or more.

Bill



To: Gerald Walls who wrote (63619)8/31/1998 2:12:00 PM
From: Paul Engel  Respond to of 186894
 
Gerald - Re: " The few chips overclocked by hobbyists not afraid of screwdrivers will have no impact on the ASP of the millions of chips sold by Intel in a year. "

Thanks for the clear and coherent discussion of overclocking CPUs - and their overblown significance.

Paul