To: Wild Rose who wrote (33881 ) 9/1/1998 4:56:00 AM From: d:oug Respond to of 35569
elry, Bill's past and current agenda on IPMCF is not controlled by Bill. Bill has been used by others to help discredit IPM and desert dirts in general. The easiest type of person to control and manipulate is Bill's type. A person with low self esteem plus high IQ plus no hatred thoughts will refuse to acknowledge to self that they are confused and do not understand. From this they project themselves as over-achievers, to show to others that they are in control. But this quality they have becomes a "must have", the effect being, they are controlled by it. They are not really confortable with this (their life), but are very terrified to break away from it, exposing that what is left to see. The sad cycle then happens, the more doubts Bill has of himself, the more he has to present himself as knowing and being in control, which ofcourse makes the Bill inside more doubtful to himself. New cycle. So, you can reason with him, tell him all the correct and obvious things that to you are so clear to understand, Bill cannot let himself understand what you are saying. To do so would result in Bill seeing himself as other currently see him, and Bill would not be able to accept this, as in "not acceptable". So Bill cannot but continue to do as he has done, the things others have set up to suck in people like Bill, knowing that this is how they continue their lie. Bill has not only been scam'ed by others, but Bill was the one that actually gave the sucker punch to Bill. This is not the time or place to feel sorry for Bill. Now its IPM, to save and protect. Later, after Bill gets the slime resulting from him being scam'ed, we the good guys can either feel sorry for him, or pity him. Its ok to post to Bill, or do a reply to Bill, but he is a lost soul, and like an alcoholic, he is the first to know of his condition, but will deny it, and in the end he will be the last to know(acknowledge) it. All the while everyone knows, and Bill knows everyone knows, but Bill won't let himself know that which he knows everyone else knows. We have to be patience with Bill, like we would be with a person with a problem. Bill has accomplished the task needed by the scam'ers. The scam'ers will now let Bill float under his own power, his impact is now near zero, just a nuisance. Best to either talk baby talk or "yes Bill" or "ok Bill" to Bill now. Doug