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To: Greg Jung who wrote (63724)9/1/1998 11:09:00 AM
From: Ali Chen  Respond to of 186894
 
Greg, <Raw clock speed comparison also rather silly.>
They (Intel stalwarts Paul, Yousef, etc.) do this all
the time: they cannot comprehend the architectural
differences in chip designs. As a result of Paul's
bias, the following key phrase has escaped his
attention:
"The copper chips -- designed from an aluminum-based 300MHz
chip -- will be slightly smaller and consume 58 percent less
power than current PowerPC processors"

It means that the P-II-450 can be easily run at
600MHz if Intel would employ copper. It become
more and more apparent that Intel is missing
several "inflection" points by now, in strategic
marketing and in strategic technology:
a) sub-$1000 and sub-$500 PC market
b) basic core was not evolved much since PPro;
c) denial of copper.
c) ....

If the company will not introduce a 7-generation
core for Windows x86 platform, it may end up
in a niche market of "explicitly parallel"
scientific computing with their Merced.

- Ali



To: Greg Jung who wrote (63724)9/1/1998 12:02:00 PM
From: Paul Engel  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
Greg - Re: "You will have to add power consumption and cooling
requirements to make a comparison (400 MHz Copper PPC
.vs. 450 MHz PII.) Raw clock speed comparison also rather
silly. "

Raw Clock speeds are not silly - they are essential METRICS of a given process/design capability.

As for power consumption and cooling, these indeed are important and the PowerPC has lower power consumption than an equivalent Pentium II - but people don't buy "Watts" - they buy performance.

And MHz is a good first order indicator of performance.

Paul