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To: lin luo who wrote (1803)9/2/1998 11:37:00 PM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2578
 
Hi lin luo; I'm struggling with trying to figure out what China
did with the futures market. Please assist me one more time,
if I still don't get it, I will give up gracefully...

So when the China buys the underlyings and sells the future,
they force the arbitrage apart. Since the futures price is
based on short term debt rates as well as the underlying
stocks, this must, I suppose, cause short term interest rates
to change.

I'm a little sleepy here, but here goes. The usual arbitrage
between interest rates, futures and stock prices is to have
enough money to buy the stocks. That is what you must
pay interest on, as the futures don't need nearly as much
margin. Then you sell the futures. Since all the margin
money costs you interest, it is normal for futures prices to
be higher than the underlying security price. This difference,
(which I have seen on all long term stock futures prices)
is what allows the index arbitraguers to earn interest on
their money...

Of course there also exists the reverse arbitrage. That is,
short the stocks and long the futures. Arbitrageurs would
execute that program if the futures dropped a lot more
than the stock market.

So if the government drives the future below the underlying
security price, this would mean that arbitrageurs would have
to reverse their positions. They would then earn interest
by shorting the stock and buying the future...

If they previously had a position that consisted of long
stock and short the future, the government's action
would force them to reverse, costing them a lot of money...

But is this who the government is trying to punish? I'm
still not getting it.

I thought the speculators to punish were the people who
were short the HK$, and those short the HK stock futures.

It seems like those who were short the stock futures that
the government bought would get a free gift, as the futures
price would be artificially lowered.

The guys who were short the HK$ don't seem to me to be
punished by all this, at least directly. But the influence of
doing this sort of action on interest rates is too much for me
to work out.

Please explain a little more...

Thanking you in advance, and goodnight.

-- Carl