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To: Maxwell who wrote (36687)	9/2/1998 11:57:00 PM
From: Maxwell	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571174

Psygnosis, a subsidiary of Sony, think 3DNOW! is superior to Intel FPU: "The AMD-K6r-2 processor represents a crucial breakthrough in enhancing floating point performance. Psygnosis is keen to utilise the 3DNow! technology in our games to offer the player an even better gaming experience." 209.239.39.102 Psygnosis will introduce 5 new games with 3DNow! Just as I said before the CeleronA can't block K6-2. Why? The reason is simple. CeleronA and PII have NO 3D-engine. 3DNow can do so much more than what Intel pipeline FPU can do. One example is lighting. Most game has only one lighting. Just add several lighting effects on the game and Intel CPU will be choked! The K6-2 on the other hand will run very smoothly. Maxwell

To: Maxwell who wrote (36687)	9/3/1998 12:16:00 AM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1571174

Maxwell - Re: " Intel better release their 500MHz by February or else AMD will be at par with Intel and drive Intel out of business by selling the 450MHz for $200. " You are neglecting a VERY IMPORTANT TECHNICAL DETAIL ! Without the K6-3, AMD's K6 and K6-2 will not get commensurate system speed improvements as their internal CPU clock speed increases - BECAUSE THE EXTERNAL L2 CACHE IS DEADLOCKED at a FIXED 100 MHz ! The faster the K6-2 runs, it is still throttled by the fixed speed of the external L2 cache ! On the other hand, as Intel's Pentium II clock speed increases, it's internal L2 cache speed tracks at 1/2 the CPU speed. At 450 MHz, the Pentium II has a 225 MHz L2 caches speed, 2.25X the speed of the K6-2. Yes, Maxwell - that is THE SLOT 1 ADVANTAGE (there are others !). And, since Intel's Mendocino Celeron is out in FULL PRODUCTION, it's internal L2 cache tracks at FULL CPU SPEED - 300 MHz or 333 MHz for the L2 cache - same as the CPU clock speed. As noted by all the Overclocking tests on the Celeron A's, provided by Tom Uberclockermeister and Anand Shimpi, the 450 MHz Mendocino - with only 128 K of L2 cache - keep pace with the Pentium II at 450 MHz (running with 1/2 speed L2 cache). Too bad AMD is delaying the Sharptooth (K6-3) introduction until early 1999 - the K6-2 will continue to suffer and not benefit much from any clock speed improvements. Paul

To: Maxwell who wrote (36687)	9/3/1998 12:22:00 AM
From: Jim McMannis	Respond to of 1571174

Maxwell, RE:"Yousef said "I would be willing to bet that AMD will not have a 400mhz K6 by the last day of October '98 and a 450mhz K6 by the last day of January '99 ... Of course these need to be available at the ChipMerchant, not just some AMD pre-announcement." This is really funny. I stated on this BB that I thought AMD would introduce the K6-2-400 the first week of November or shortly there after. So what does Yousef use for a cut off date? The last day of October. Wow, Yousef, get out on the limb there baby! <G> At least you're paying attention! Jim