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To: Philip R Berber who wrote (985)	9/3/1998 8:10:00 PM
From: Tanner	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 7382

Mr. Berber, That's not cheap....Now JPR Capital which has a flat rate of $10 per ticket is cheap. Even RML Trading which offers a flat rate of $14.95 per ticket is a reasonable charge. Plus these firms don't charge you extra just for cancelling an order. I have to agree with Darren, your product would be much more widely accepted if your prices were as competetive as most of the competition.

To: Philip R Berber who wrote (985)	9/3/1998 9:46:00 PM
From: gbh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 7382

Philip, pricing doesn't really start at $19.95, since one can't really execute any trade for this price, correct? The cheapest trade appears to be a SOES order at $20.45, and it goes up from there. And I am correct in interpreting your ECN fees at $19.95 + $15.00 for a 1000 share fill (ISLD, for instance)? The website is thoroughly confusing on ISLD orders. It lists 3 different types of ISLD orders: 1) ISLD direct (DATK) add liquidity - $-.001/share 2) ISLD direct (DATK) remove liquidity - $.0025/share 3) ECN (ISLD) - $.015/share Can you please explain the difference of these? BTW, your website is still difficult to navigate, but the new comparison of your software to RT III is very useful. Thanks. gary

To: Philip R Berber who wrote (985)	9/4/1998 12:43:00 AM
From: David Meyer	Respond to of 7382

Philip - Which did I do? Mis-read or mis-understand this message. exchange2000.com

To: Philip R Berber who wrote (985)	9/4/1998 1:08:00 AM
From: Len	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 7382

I don't get it, Mr. Berber. And I really do not wish a conflict. But,in this thread, on 8/30, you say this.... I too am sensitive to respecting the MB thread and yet felt that to close the loop, and be informational rather than promotional, that it was in order to post the reply comparing Real Tick and CyBerTrader, given the circumstances. You will find more more detailed comparisons become available from us and our intention is to keep this information on the CyberTrader, rather than the MB thread. Such detailed comparisons will also be published on CyBerCorp's NEW web site at cybercorp.com ON 8/31 you say .....Further discussion should perhaps take place on CyBerTrader's thread - respecting that this is MB's thread Further information is available on CyBerCorp's new web site at cybercorp.com Then, in this post, you pull up a two month old post as a way to post new promotional material. Do you read your own posts? Or do you deliberately break your own promises in the pursuit of new clients? Listen, I know you have a great product, as I've seen the testimonials from your clients. I also hear that you really are a good guy. And, frankly, I don't know that it is bad to compare the two products in either thread. But by the clients, IMHO, not the owner of one of the companies. Don't you think it hurts your credibility to continue to do so? I understand you're running a business, and wish to spread the good word. But I just find it unseemly, as I've said before. While I certainly wouldn't want you to deceive by entering under a different name, even privately asking your clients to do the dirty work <g> would be preferable, again in at least my opinion. We all EXPECT you to be biased, as you should be, but true comparisons have more of a ring of truth when they come from genuine users of both systems. Thanks for at least considering the above. I really do wish you well. Adults can agree to disagree without fighting. Len

To: Philip R Berber who wrote (985)	9/4/1998 1:25:00 AM
From: jawd	Respond to of 7382

Your prostituting yourself and your Cyber product on this MB thread really shows how far down the toilet your company is. I'd never leave any money of mine with a company that employed such desperate tactics to try and attract attention to itself. You dig up a very old post by the guy darren who was proved to be a liar in connection with his claims for Cyber and who threatened physical violence to MB posters in private email - you take this and use it to post a blatant advertisment for your product. MB Traders have made their choice - so dont pollute this thread with your SPAM. If we want info on Cyber we can go to your Cyber thread. If you want to start a thread specifically for discussion and comparison of different brokers - then do it. But don't keep trying to screw up this thread that was peaceful until you and your Cyber friends started. This thread is for those interested in learning more about MB - I dont come here to read about products I've already rejected. Please go away. Thanks.