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To: llamaphlegm who wrote (16034)	9/3/1998 11:22:00 PM
From: llamaphlegm	Respond to of 164684

The Web retailers, though, may not be the only impediment to comparison shopping in cyberspace: Some of the shopping bots may be undermined even by their owners. The acquisition of Junglee by Amazon.com, for example, will give the book seller control of one of the most well-known shopping bots. That worries critics, who note that it isn't in the best interests of Amazon.com to have traffic driven to competitors should Amazon.com fail to have the lowest prices. A book search using Junglee on the Compaq Web site missed a number of on-line vendors that offer the title, including Barnes & Noble Inc. Junglee, which lists only vendors that have paid it a fee, says that it doesn't currently have a relationship with Barnes & Noble, but it is in discussions with it and other booksellers. Amazon has pledged that Junglee won't play favorites and will make as much information as possible available to consumers. Nonetheless, Junglee is now playing down the idea that cheaper prices are the main reason to use a shopping bot. "You don't buy based on price alone. There are multiple aspects, like the convenience of having everything in one place," says Mr. Harinarayan. "That's the way we've started looking at this-as one-stop shopping." Am I the only one who thinks that there's an inherent contradiction in trying to be a massive retailer and simultaneously compete with other shop bots (on whose sites you want to buy ad space so that you can essentially lure them onto your site and have them use your amzn)????Does YHOO allow xcit, nscp et al to advertise on its site? LP

To: llamaphlegm who wrote (16034)	9/4/1998 4:06:00 AM
From: Skeeter Bug	Respond to of 164684

check out shopping.com before shopping amzn for books or cds. i priced "entering the zone" at amzn and it was $24 or so. at shopping.com it was $10 (not incl shipping - but it ain't $14!). thery also offer best seller at significant discounts and the top 100 cds are $8.99. hmmmmm, shopping.com. naw, no newbie would plug that in... ;-)

To: llamaphlegm who wrote (16034)	9/4/1998 4:13:00 AM
From: e. boolean	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 164684

Gee, just when we were certain who was going to dominate the internet and how, someone goes and upsets the whole cozy keiretsu... Good thing AMZN staked out all that lucrative prime real estate... Mac OS Irks Search Engines (09/02/98; 8:05 p.m. ET) By John Borland, TechWeb A new feature in Apple's operating system has Web search companies worried, and has sparked a last-minute round of negotiations between the online firms and the computer manufacturer. The Macintosh's next operating-system upgrade is due in October, with several new features to tie it closer to the Internet. One of these is a desktop application, dubbed Sherlock, that acts as a Web search tool, piggybacking on the databases of major Web search companies to retrieve results.... But the search companies, whose business model depends on bringing users to their own sites and keeping them there as long as possible, aren't crazy about the idea of letting Mac users bypass their sites. Sherlock's ability to bypass the search engine's sites is particularly galling for companies aiming at the Web portal market. Nearly all of the major search sites are transforming themselves into portals -- one-stop service centers with directories, search engines, and other utilities and content -- hoping to keep users onsite longer. techweb.com