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To: Ada Marie who wrote (32312)	9/5/1998 7:34:00 AM
From: rudedog	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 97611

Ada - probably a reference to the early days of apple when microsoft supplied a large part of apple's software. jobs later claimed that microsoft ripped off parts of the windows interface but the courts decided otherwise. most people now understand that jobs ripped it off himself, from PARC research (the Xerox Star) and gates just worked from the same base. microsoft has always supplied a lot of software to apple. jobs is a great showman but mediocre as a technical guy IMHO.

To: Ada Marie who wrote (32312)	9/5/1998 12:47:00 PM
From: FR1	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 97611

Off subject...Recently a friend asked me,"Didn't Steve Jobs and Bill Gates work together in the past?" As I read it in the magazines, in the very early days Jobs saw the idea of the mouse and using objects as a great innovation. He wanted to do it for Apple but did not have the manpower to do the code. Microsoft did. They made a deal. Microsoft would do much of the code work for Apple and, in return, MSFT would be allowed to use some of the code for its OS. After jobs was booted out and windows came on strong, Apple was in trouble and decided to sue MSFT saying MSFT went beyond the agreement in its usage. The agreement was done in the very early days and based on fuzzy letters between Jobs and Gates. The judge, as expected, threw it out. I agree with dog on Jobs. Apple and MSFT still do a lot of work together.