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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (526)	9/4/1998 7:48:00 PM
From: Don Pueblo	Respond to of 1542

Emile, you have finally given us something of substance. "..rather than harm another human being..." Ask someone if, as a child, they would rather have been spanked one time or told one time (assuming they understood what you were saying) they were a meaningless antichrist demon that was not just born bad and was bad, but was going to hell if they didn't forsake the religion of their parents and relatives and adopt another one instantly. You talk about dying instead of harming someone? You want to know what harm is? Well, for one thing, that's my best friend that unfortunately got his friggin' head blown off one fine summer morning while defending your right to be a jackass. Or that's my uncle Dave, who helped clean up a mess in Germany in 1945 that you say never happened. Or, my friend Becky's mom and dad, Abraham and Alva, two rather ordinary people who had a Very Bad Camp Experience With Tattoos. Wait, I shouldn't mention them, they are demons from hell. Harm can be mental as well as physical, but you know that real well. You know as well as I do what that kid would choose. Yet, despite the blatant and overwhelming evidence of the damage you cause on purpose, you claim you are an agent of Jesus Christ. You have, on countless occasions, attacked with malice of forethought, anyone who does not completely agree with your interpretation of history. You don't ask who they are, you don't care where they come from, you have no truck with them at all, you simply judge them as evil and be done with it. Many think you are simply misguided and zealous. I know the truth; you know exactly what you are doing. You appear to have failed to see the point, over and over and over again. The point is not who is right and who is wrong. The point is this: Most people understand the purpose of their religion and use it as it was intended, to make things better. Some people use their religion for their own purposes. Some people use their religion for unpleasant purposes, and explain it however they can make it fit the circumstances. Anyone who understands the very basics of any religion has the ability to understand this, it is directly joined to any understanding of the spiritual nature of man. Fact: Repeatedly, in the same sentence, you claim you are an agent of Jesus Christ and then you harm someone. Then you give the reason why it's OK and you really love them. The only person that cares about any lame justification you have for hurting people is you. No words, no book, no research, no history, no news story, no social problem, no enlightening experience, no "what about them, they are worse", none of these things can change one simple observable FACT: *When you harm innocent people on purpose, you* are the problem, Jack.** Now, do the rest of us a huge favor and go back to your favorite book and see if you can find any references for that. There are more than one. I don't expect you to understand what I just told you, but maybe one of your kids will read it some day and they might feel better. Here's your water pistol. Don't hurt yourself with it. Much later, chump.

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (526)	9/4/1998 8:24:00 PM
From: Larry Voyles	Respond to of 1542

As for the usage of Palestinians terrorism instead of Israeli terroism, your choice is irrational and immoral. My choice was for the first ethnic, racial or religious absolutist conflict that came to mind. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict was the first that popped into my head. Whether it was because of the abundant news coverage or because of my interest in armed conflict in general, I don't know. I'm not going to even breach the rest of your "Zionist Nazi" arguments. What I is see a paranoid religious/ethnic group (Jews) that are doing whatever is required to survive surrounded by hostile neighbors. Again, the Palestinian-Israeli conflict comes down to the morality of survival. Man is nothing but a talking animal. A talking tribal animal. "If you're not in my clan, you're less than human." Anytime a common group of animals or humans feels that their survival is threatened, the response is not reasoned, fair or humane. Survival is always right. As a Christian, I hope that I would have the courage and spiritual fortitude to be killed rather than harm another human being. I'll state it again: That's how the church/ruling class asserts their control over the unwashed masses. If it is immoral to disobey or revolt against the church leaders or the government, then the use of religion as a pacification tool has been successful.