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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (619)	9/5/1998 3:21:00 PM
From: Don Pueblo	Respond to of 1542

Are there any Jews in your Perfect World?

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (619)	9/5/1998 4:42:00 PM
From: Zeev Hed	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1542

Emile, even Churchill had some bad lapses in judgment (he also refused to bomb the concentration camps after being asked time and time again to do it). As for synagogues, it is very strange that now the Habad are having a major drive in Russia to reopen all those closed synagogues, why if these were open all this time? When you study the Russian revolution, differentiate between its origins (1905 to about 1924 or so) at the subsequent events. During its initial stages, many idealistic Jews viewed the the toppling of the tzaristic regime as their first priority, simply because Tzarist Russia organized and backed pogroms against the Jews, deprived them of the right to own land and engage in any free profession they wanted. They were simple second grade citizens. Some of these Jews lost their faith in god, other were some of the first settlers in the malaria infested Gallilee (including David Ben Gurion, then Green). From those that stayed behind, many joined the "revolution" and the lack of a "Non Noble" intelligenzia" in Tzarist Russia did indeed cause the percentage of Jews in the leadership of the "revolution" to be greater than in the population. Remember they were fighting for an ideal set up but no other then Thomas Moore (Utopia). You forgot to mention Anna Luxemburg, the leader of the German communist party, she was Jewish as well, and frankly, in Germany of the late 20' early 30' I would have been a communist myself, since that was the only movement left to fight Hitler with. If you understand the historical events that brought about the Russian revolution, you would understand why Lenin followed Marx tenet that "Religion is opium for the masses", and thus the move against the Orthodox Church. For few years, the Jews had a slightly "lighter burden" than usual in Russia, but that ended as soon as Lenin died and Stalin took over. Hey, give those poor Jews a break, they took the yoke off for few years out of a thousand years of Christian oppression and continuous pressure to forsake their faith in the holy Torah. In their place, would you not seize the opportunity to raise your head, straighten your back, so that you are ready for the next blow of oppression? The synagogues were finally closed once Stalin took charge (he did not want to have Churchill complain to him 20 years later). Zeev