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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (1658)	9/6/1998 11:33:00 PM
From: jlallen	Respond to of 67261

Have thought it over very carefully. If we don't throw this bum out now the office of the Presidency may be debased for years to come. If we allow an acknowledged perjurer, obstructer, office abuser and adulterer (and depending on Starr's report God knows what else) remain in office, we don't say much for that office, the man it needs or the country we live in. We must demand more of our elected officials and raise the bar which has slowly been lowered over the past few years to the point that even a snake like Clinton could get over it. We must keep faith with the Constitution. No man who views the truth as an impediment to be manuevered around to attain his own ends and who avoids confronting the truth like a cockroach when the lights get flipped on should ever be President. I want him impeached because he has violated his oath of office and his public trust. JLA

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (1658)	9/7/1998 12:37:00 AM
From: Dwight E. Karlsen	Respond to of 67261

Have any of you Clinton bashers really thought about what you want now and why? You remind me of the peasant onlookers when Francois Garbaillot went to the guillotine, apparently a fascinating public display, unfortunately Mr. Garbaillot was the only person who knew the formula for pesticide and next year the grain supply perished. I want Clinton out. Give me Al Gore anyday. We need moral integrity in our President, for that authorizes moral authority. We need a President who doesn't spend vast sums of public money hiding his illicit sex in small rooms off the Oval Office. The man is a joke, not to mention I have zero respect for his dirty politics methods of smearing people with lies and false accusations, like he and his did with Billy Dale. The man Clinton is the worst sort of politician and leader that this country has ever seen, and I mean that with all sincerity. The truth is Michelle, that from a purely political viewpoint, it would be better for the Republicans to let Clinton swing gently in the wind for two more years. It would be a no-brainer for a Republican sweep for the Presidency in 2000. But I do care for my country, and I feel that it is far more important than politics to have a leader who a) won't lie to us, and b) has moral integrity, from which derives moral authority to make decisions on things like whether a factory is really a nerve gas factory, and if so, should we send in the Tomahawks. I believe that when a President has totally succombed to his most base urges, no matter how reckless or morally reprehensible, then he will spend an inordinate of time practicing deceit, which undermines his moral authority. That's it. He's unfit for the office.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (1658)	9/7/1998 12:40:00 PM
From: Bill Grant	Respond to of 67261

Michelle, Clinton has to go down because he has engaged, over a long period of time, in a sustained series of criminal and immoral acts. We cannot permit the leader of the Nation, who should have been setting an example of behavior above reproach, to walk away from this incredi-bly disgraceful record, without calling him to task.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (1658)	9/8/1998 9:47:00 AM
From: j_b	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

<<Have any of you Clinton bashers really thought about what you want now and why? >> Although I don't consider myself a Clinton basher, I'll rise to the bait. I want him to admit to what he did - actually admit to having had sex over a long period of time with a subordinate, at times having it affect the running of the government and possibly his judgement, admit to attempting to hide the truth, etc. Then he should make us believe that he actually knows that what he did was wrong, and that he'll never do it again. That's it - no resignation, no impeachment. If laws were broken, I suppose the cases should go to court (after his term is over), but I'm uncomfortable with that. If it sounds like I'm treating Clinton like a child, it's because IMHO he's acting like one. <<unfortunately Mr. Garbaillot was the only person who knew the formula for pesticide and next year the grain supply perished.>> I seriously doubt that Clinton is the only one who knows anything of import to the country. That's not the way the government is set up. Otherwise, it would be too easy to cripple the country. If he is, he should never be allowed to leave the WH because the nation could ill afford to lose his expertise. <<is an impeachment really the best thing for the country >> There needs to be a distinction between what I would like to see happen and what I think is best for the country. Obviously it would have been better for the country had Clinton not done whatever it is he did. Was impeaching Nixon the best thing for the country? Why? At the time the country went through quite an upheaval, both here and abroad. We substituted a strong leader for a weak one. We undermined the office of the Presidency. How are we to determine, without the benefit of hindsight, whether this is the right thing to do?