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To: jim kelley who wrote (1691)9/7/1998 3:44:00 AM
From: Zoltan!  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 67261
 
>>Who told you this, your psychiatrist?

There you go again, projecting.

Btw, what do think of Moynihan, who said there are numerous grounds for Slick's impeachment and that Congress must do its duty? And do it swiftly.

Is he one of your reviled "ultra right wing republicans"? Those devils that torment your idea of reality so?



To: jim kelley who wrote (1691)9/7/1998 4:35:00 AM
From: Zoltan!  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 67261
 
From the Times of London:

September 7 1998

From Little Rock to the Oval Office, Clinton trails a
stench of depravity and corruption

On every count, a moral bankrupt


It is not a good idea to make a charismatic sociopath the
leader of one's party, or the President of one's country.

When the Democratic Senator Bob Kerrey says that
President Clinton's conduct is "immoral", he is entitled to
say that. He lost a leg in Vietnam when Bill Clinton was
dodging the draft in Oxford; he ran against Clinton for the
nomination in 1992 and in 1996 observed that Clinton
was "an unusually good liar".

When Senator Joseph Lieberman says that the President
has "compromised his moral authority", he should add an
apology of his own. Senator Lieberman should say "sorry"
to the American people for helping to persuade them to
elect and re-elect a morally defective President.

The psychological truth about Bill Clinton is relatively
simple. He is not wholly a madman; he does not hate his
fellow human beings, as Hitler did, nor does he wish them
ill; he is obsessed with power and with women; he is a
brilliant emotional campaigner, but there is a piece missing.
He has no moral compass; he does not know right from
wrong. This was always apparent in the way he acted as
Governor of Arkansas, but the Democrats, the American
press and, worst of all, the American public, chose to
overlook that. It was equally apparent in his behaviour to
hundreds of women. He had a standard operating
technique, and had a staff to handle it. The women were
called "bimbo eruptions"; the technique was called
"rub-a-dub".

The "rub-a-dub" involved telling the women to lie about
the affair; if there was still a risk that she would talk, she
was offered the choice between a good job, if necessary
on the federal payroll, or having her character blackened.
Sometimes this was accompanied by physical threats,
given at second-hand; one woman has testified that an
emissary of the Democrats threatened to "break her pretty
legs". The Arkansas police say that they had to cover
assignations with more than 100 women. Apparently
President Clinton told Monica Lewinsky that he had
connected with "some hundreds" of other women since he
was first married. It is addictive conduct; it is also a
destructive abuse of women.

Yet this is the less important part of the President's moral
blindness. In the Arkansas years, he helped in the
cover-up of the mass importation of cocaine into Mena
airport, of which there is evidence that he had knowledge.
He set up the $700 million Arkansas Development
Finance Agency (ADFA), which made crony loans in
return for kickbacks to the Governor's political funds. The
ADFA records have disappeared. His wife had corrupt
partners in the Rose Law Firm whose records were
shredded shortly after the death of Vince Foster, the
former White House counsel.

Clinton was the associate of Arkansas criminals, including
his bond-dealing friend Dan Lasater, convicted for a
cocaine felony and pardoned by Clinton. Lasater's
executive partner, Patsy Thomasson, is still in the White
House, and was one of those who went into Foster's
office to clear up after his death.

Clinton failed to seek proper investigation of the
suspicious deaths connected to these scandals. The
numbers are high: four Clinton associates died in doubtful
circumstances; eight people investigating allegations also
died; nine witnesses died. Of these 21 deaths eight were
found to be suicides, including those of Vince Foster
himself, of Kathy Ferguson, the former wife of the trooper
who allegedly solicited Paula Jones, and of Ed Willey, the
former manager of Clinton's campaign finance committee.
Five of the suspicious deaths occurred in plane crashes.

The pattern of abuse of public office continued in the
White House, in raising funds for campaign finance, in the
transfer of FBI files on political opponents, in the false
prosecution of the White House travel staff. Some of the
deaths occurred after Clinton became President. Jerry
Parks, a private detective in Little Rock, was shot two
months after Vince Foster's death. He had compiled a
dossier on Clinton's sexual conduct, apparently at Foster's
request. When Foster's death was announced on
television, Parks turned to his wife and said: "I'm a dead
man."

Mrs Parks alleges that the Clinton dossier was stolen
shortly before her husband's murder and that she had
been unable to secure a satisfactory Arkansas police
investigation. Arkansas politics have long been a violent
and corrupt affair, and neither as Governor nor as
President did Bill Clinton help to reform it.

The Republicans, Kenneth Starr and now the Democrats
have concentrated on the sexual scandals. There are a
number of reasons for this. The corrupt maladministration
and fundraising are very difficult to prove. Heaven knows
who did the Arkansas murders, or how many of the
suspicious deaths were murders. They belong to the
hinterland of corrupt Arkansas politics in which Bill
Clinton operated. The American people do not want to
recognise that their President is not only a sex addict but a
deeply corrupt politician.

Yet this is far more than a sex scandal. Democratic
congressmen running in the mid-term elections are
distancing themselves from him and after the elections he
will no longer have much power to reward or punish. The
loaves and fishes will be provided, if at all, by the
publishers. Monica Lewinsky's book is being offered for
$10 million.

After Watergate many of the participants, some of whom
had gone to prison, wrote their accounts of the Nixon
White House. What will Patsy Thomasson's memoirs be
worth? She knows what went on between Dan Lasater
and Clinton in the old days; she knows what she found in
Vince Foster's office; she knows the reality of Bill and
Hillary's relationship.

The next two years will see more and more of the truth
coming out. Some of it may even exonerate Clinton from
particular allegations. Unfortunately, much of it will be like
the evidence of Monica Lewinsky or Gennifer Flowers, at
first denied and then proved to be true. Once Clinton
admitted that he had lied about Lewinsky, all the other lies
he has told have ceased to work.

Clinton's position is therefore likely to get worse and
worse, as the Starr report is published, as the evidence
continues to flood out, and his party rejects him. The
American people will begin to understand how defective
he always was, how willing to abuse his power.

On The Frost Programme yesterday Chris Patten said
he thought the best thing to happen would be for the
American people to turn over the Clinton leaf and let him
finish his term of office. If it were all only about Monica
Lewinsky that might be possible, but there are too many
other scandals. Miss Lewinsky was the norm, not the
exception. There cannot be a clear-cut resolution of the
Clinton scandals so long as he remains in the White
House.

The authority of the President of the United States
depends on public confidence in his moral character.
Clinton now has no more moral authority in politics than
Robert Maxwell, another charismatic sociopath, had in
business.
the-times.co.uk



To: jim kelley who wrote (1691)9/7/1998 5:31:00 AM
From: Zoltan!  Respond to of 67261
 
More from the international front: (no pun intended)

The London Telegraph September 7, 1998

Doors closing on Clinton escape routes
By Hugo Gurdon in Washington

External Links

Stormy weather
[7 Sept '98] -
Time Magazine

White House
braces for Starr
report [6 Sept
'98] -
Washington
Post

Lott says
Clinton censure
unlikely [6 Sept
'98] -
Washington
Post

President
returning to an
altered, and
colder,
Washington [6
Sept '98] -
Washington
Post

Scandal trailed
president
overseas [6
Sept '98] -
Boston Globe

'The report'
casts long
shadow on
Washington [6
Sept '98] - Los
Angeles Times

Clinton's
resignation
openly
discussed by
some
Democrats [5
Sept '98] -
Nando Times

House leaders
will discuss
Starr report [4
Sept '98] - CNN
All Politics

Tide turning to
hot water for
Clinton [4 Sept
'98] - Time Daily

What we really
can't forgive
Clinton for: He
got caught [4
Sept '98] - Salon

The president's
disappearing
friends [29 Aug
'98] - Economist

An entangled
web: Analysing
online
journalism's
coverage of the
White House
scandal - Online
Focus

The Committee
to Impeach the
President

SoWhat? gate -
Conspiracy.com



THE crisis threatening to bundle President Clinton out of office in
disgrace accelerated yesterday amid signs of panic in the White
House and defection by Democrats.

Having hoped that his week in Russia, Northern Ireland and the
Irish Republic would shore up his leadership, Mr Clinton returned
to Washington to discover that he is vastly weakened.

White House aides said Mr Clinton was shattered by an attack last
week by his ally, Democratic Senator Joseph Lieberman, which
made him accept that the crisis was not manufactured by his
enemies and not one he can escape through the usual mixture of
denial, defiance and wounded pride. He is "quite disorientated"
and "very stricken", one political adviser said, agreeing with those
who thought his appearance in Dublin with the Prime Minister,
Bertie Ahern, was that of a haunted man.

Jim Moran, a senior Democratic congressman, said yesterday that
Mr Clinton would be "very fortunate" if he escaped with no more
than formal censure by Congress. Mr Moran said: "I don't think
that's an option, I think we are bound to go through impeachment
proceedings. I don't know how he can ever recover."

There were more body-blows to the President from Senator
Patrick Moynihan, the senior Democrat who first broke ranks and
in 1994 called for an independent counsel to investigate the
Whitewater scandal. Yesterday, he said Henry Hyde and Orrin
Hatch, the two Republicans who will lead Congress in deciding
whether to impeach the President, were "first rate" men of
"impeccable standing". This forestalls any effort by the White
House to attack them as partisan.

The doors on Mr Clinton's escape routes are being shut one after
another and confidence and unity are bleeding away. Aides were
reported as saying the mood in the executive mansion was
"unbelievably depressing . . . somewhere close to despair". Like
President Nixon a generation ago during Watergate, Mr Clinton is
ever more isolated. One insider said: "Nobody is managing this
crisis, the loop is down to two people, Bill and Hillary Clinton.
They are doing it all themselves."

The Governor of Maryland, Parris Glendening, cancelled a public
appearance with Mr Clinton, and the President's one-time close
aide, George Stephanopoulos, said: "The Democratic Party is
running away from him."

With the President's own party saying such things, there is now talk
that Mr Clinton's end could come quickly. Mr Moran and others
suggest that if the report due shortly from Kenneth Starr, the
independent counsel, reveals not just sordid details of sex sessions
in the Oval Office but also clear evidence that the President tried to
cover it up, a delegation of Democrats will tell Mr Clinton to
resign.

Officials say the President recently made a catastrophic blunder
that has had the unintended effect of forcing Mr Starr to include in
his report all the grubbiest details of Mr Clinton's affair with
Monica Lewinsky. The error was to insist under oath and in his
televised confession on Aug 17 that he had been "legally accurate"
when he swore that he never had "sexual relations" with Miss
Lewinsky.

To enable Congress to decide the truth, Mr Starr is now obliged to
explain exactly what Miss Lewinsky and Mr Clinton did with and
to each other behind closed doors. There are rumours that the
details are such that even hitherto-ardent supporters would be too
embarrassed to defend. Speaking of the report, which could be
delivered to Congress this week, one presidential adviser said: "It's
going to be blistering. It is going to connect every dot and draw
every negative inference."

The crisis has moved into a phase that pundits say confirms the old
Washington maxim that presidencies are destroyed not by
misdeeds but by cover-ups. It is now being asked whether Mr
Clinton's use of tax-financed government departments and aides to
perpetuate a deliberate lie amounts to abuse of office. Trent Lott,
majority leader in the Senate, said: "The answer could be yes. It
looks very bad."

Senator Lieberman's speech has destroyed the White House's
strategy for the past eight months, which has been a combination of
insisting that his relations with Miss Lewinsky were private and
attacks on Mr Starr for being a biased, political enemy.
telegraph.co.uk:80/



To: jim kelley who wrote (1691)9/7/1998 10:25:00 AM
From: jimpit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 67261
 
Jim Kelly,

Wake up! The current occupants of our white house
are the spawn of gutter sluts. Their parents probably
don't know about the concepts of honesty, character,
truth, honor, patriotism or SHAME! How do you expect
their progeny to possess such attributes?




This article is somewhat dated in this increasingly
fast-paced impeachment avalanche but, it makes
some worthwhile points which should be remembered.

London Electronic Telegraph
25 August 1998

Has the cookie crumbled for Bill Clinton?
By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in Washington


Congress 'will not impeach for a single mistake'

IF in doubt, it is always wisest to assume that Bill Clinton will confound his enemies. But
this time there is very little doubt. The whole of political Washington now knows that the
game is almost up.

The public at large - plump, prosperous, disengaged and slow to anger - is a long way
behind the curve. President Clinton's job approval ratings are still holding above 65 per
cent, kept aloft by the Dow
Jones Index and the asset bubble of the Roaring Nineties. But this is an anomaly that
cannot persist for long. On trust and honesty his ratings have already fallen through the
floor. A Washington Post-ABC
News poll had him down to the Nixonian level of 19 per cent on "character".

There has been a tectonic change in the political landscape after his admission that he
toyed with the American people for seven months, stonewalling with implausible claims of
executive and attorney-client
privilege.

Returning after a year in Britain, I am dumbfounded by the insurgent mood of the
Washington media. Indeed, it is downright putschist. Former cheerleaders for the Clinton
White House are on the television
every night fulminating against the President, cursing him with the fury of the betrayed.

The bureau chiefs for the great metropolitan newspapers and political weeklies shake their
heads wearily at suggestions that Mr Clinton can somehow mount a defence against
perjury by quibbling over the nature of sex acts, whether performed with or without
cigars. As for the idea of a fresh Oval Office address to the nation, a new improved
apology to show that he is genuinely sorry this time, they smile knowingly
at the naivity of such an absurd gambit. Mr Clinton's problems have
moved beyond public relations.

US News & World Report, which slept through the first five-and-a-half
years of the Clinton presidency, is reporting this week that Congress will soon receive a
bombshell from the independent counsel, Kenneth Starr. The Starr report will conclude
that the President "suborned perjury and obstructed justice". It will "echo the language of
the Watergate era - abuse of power and lack of fitness for office".

Newsweek, owned by the Queen Bee of the Beltway Democratic
establishment, the Washington Post proprietor Katharine Graham, says
much the same. It reports that Mr Clinton's testimony before the grand
jury last week "further entangled him in a web of lies".

The magazine implies that the President's secretary, Betty Currie, has
exposed him to likely impeachment proceedings by revealing a
conspiracy to cover up the affair with Monica Lewinsky. For good measure, it adds that
the descriptions of Mr Clinton's sexual proclivities in the Starr report will make people
"want to throw up".

This looks like the end of the road. Reporters for the elite media are
being taken aside by those in the know - the FBI, the Starr investigation, the arbiters of
power at the Metropolitan Club - and warned that President Clinton could be facing 10, 12
or more counts of criminal conduct, and that is on the Lewinsky matter alone.

The few Democrats who dare to appear on television to defend the
White House are already hedging their bets. If the reports are true, they admit, the
President will almost certainly have to think of alternative employment. Their words
maintain that there is still doubt about the facts, but their body language says otherwise.

Loyalty is weak. The Clinton administration, after all, once played a
cynical game of "triangulation" to distance itself from the Democrats'
Leftish rump in Congress. The Democratic leadership in the House, in
turn, regards him as an opportunist, a man without ideology who sold out to the corporate
lobbies and adopted the balanced-budget agenda of the bond markets.

Increasingly it is a question of political survival for Democrats facing close races in the
mid-term elections this November. The party has already lost both the House and the
Senate under this president. There is now a fear of a wipeout on the scale of the
post-Watergate rout of 1974, when Republicans on Capitol Hill paid the price for Nixon's
protracted disgrace.

In private the whispers are getting louder every day. If it were done,
they plot and scheme, if the knife were to be plunged before Bill Clinton can do any more
damage to the party, 'twere well it were done quickly.

Mr Clinton surely knows he can expect little mercy. Sam Nunn, the
former chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, has
already delivered the first blow to the head. In an essay in the
Washington Post (see external link), he called on Mr Clinton to
remember his duty to the American people.

"This will require personal sacrifice and may even require his resignation, but would fulfill
the President's most important oath, to preserve and protect our nation," he wrote. In other
words: be gone from here, you cad, before we have you tarred and feathered and ridden
out of town on a rail.

But has Mr Clinton got the message?

telegraph.co.uk:80/et?ac=001005860959663&rtmo=qpR...