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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (703)	9/7/1998 5:46:00 PM
From: wallacestevens	Respond to of 1542

Agnosticism (learn to spell it if you want to talk about it) is probably the holiest "ism" there is, since it does not argue against the existence of god and, at the same time, does not argue for any one version of god (which must be the ultimate blasphemy). I feel certain, Emile, that you don't get what a joke it is that you are so eager to destroy the relationship some people have with god so that they can have a relationship with god. You just want them to use your words for it. Will someone tell me why I am posting to this person?

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (703)	9/7/1998 6:09:00 PM
From: Zeev Hed	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1542

You still do not understand and try to tell me what I believe in, yes I am agnostic, and I am a Jew, and for me Judaism is a way of life centered around the basic tenet of Judaism I will repeat: "And thou shall love you neighbor as you love your self". I have evolved beyond the need for "organized religion", at least for myself. I am not an atheist since I do not have the answer to the question you are refusing to answer (Can God create a stone he cannot carry, when will you answer this simple one). Agnostics do not "reject" the god of Abraham, or any god, they say that they are unable to rationally determine if God exists or not. Some agnostics CHOOSE to believe the almighty exists other agnostic CHOOSE NOT to believe God exists. You do not know which sect of agnosticism I follow, and it is quite unimportant for this discussion. One can follow Jewish tradition in both "sects", one can even follow Christian tradition in both of these agnostic sects. Agnostics are far from being atheistic, at worst they are pantheistic, a level slightly more elevated, in my opinion, than pure monotheism, and greatly elevated from trinitheism, the latter being somewhere, once more, just in my opinion, between monotheism and paganism on the ladder of theistic evolution. Zeev