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To: IN_GOD_I_TRUST who wrote (20627)9/8/1998 2:11:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
" I ask you, who is Israel? Is it the historical House of Judah/Israel or is it the Faith of Abraham SEED, both in which you so thouroughly defined previously?"

The House of Israel and the House of Judah , and the Faith of Abraham Seed are synonymous. The Houses of Israel and Judah represented the physical seed of Abraham after God separated Jacob's brother Esau . Throughout the history of the ancient Hebrew nation, the houses of Israel and Judah had many members that never had the faith of Abraham. St. Paul captures this in Romans when he regfers us back to the days of Elijah to explain this spiritual principle. During the days of Elijah, there were millions of members of the Houses of Israel and Judah but only 7000 that were the Faith of Abraham Seed. Paul goes on to tell us that their are many in the seed of Abraham (the Houses of Israel and Judah) that are of the seed but not true children (I do not have my bible right now but can give you references later today, Lord willing). He furthers tells us that not all the seed of Israel are the true sons of Abraham.
I believe Paul was explain the mystery of why only a remannat of the Houses of Israel and Judah were saved in the first century. Only a remannat was saved because the rest did not have the Faith of Abraham necessary to accept the new covenant. This principle had been working in the seed of Abraham from the birth of Ishamael and Isaac, through the birth of the twins sons of Isaac Jacob and Esau right through the twelves sons of Jacob when only Joseph seem to have the faith of Abraham right on through the Old Testament history of Israel to the days of Elijah when only 7000 Israelites had the faith of Abraham to the day of Jesus when only a remannat ( tens and probably hundreds of thousand were saved through their faith in Jesus)
This principle of a remanant applied also to the nations of the Gentile where only remanants were saved in each nation.
The nation of ancient Israel was a type and symbolic paradigm used by God to demonstrate the priciples of salvation through only a remanant of those with the faith of Abraham.
What is your view?

In the love of Christ
Emile