Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Microcap & Penny Stocks : Zulu-tek, Inc. (ZULU) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: aleta who wrote (13600)	9/8/1998 11:00:00 PM
From: wlcnyc	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 18444

Aleta, Re: Your statement to PT Only those in denial and already so heavily invested in this stock they can't afford not to believe are going to believe anything you have to say about this company. I do not wish to get into the middle of any of the "word brawls" between you, PT and/or Jon.....but the above is one mighty broad statement and an extreme over generalization! I cannot just let that go by without speaking out for MYSELF. I am neither in denial nor am I heavily invested. I read what PT contributes to this thread - whether it is stated as fact or speculation - and weigh it against what other information I may have and my own judgement, just as I would if it came from Jon who is at the other extreme, or from you who seems to be in the middle. Of course, I would prefer to believe everything with ZULU is "hunky dory" - why else would I be in a penny stock. If there is even a slim chance that I can make a profit on ZULU, I will play until that chance disappears. That's what it is all about - at least for me. That doesn't mean I am in denial. I will not reject any information or speculation just because it came from any of the three of you JUST because you said it. What I am objecting to is that your statement "means" that anyone who would believes anything PT says, is irrational - because they can only be in denial, or in too deep! Do you really believe that? Do you really believe that everything that PT says should be discounted? If you do, wouldn't you be dumping your ESVS shares? And if you just ignored everything that PT says, but listened to Jon only, wouldn't you also be dumping your ESVS. I assume you might answer something like, "Well no, I use my own DD to make my investments." Fine, then I would have to question why you are here at all. However, in reality, I know that it helps to hear the pros and the cons of the issues to help us make own decisions. I personally think that even WILD speculation is thought provoking and therefore helpful! After all, the penny stock game is based mostly on speculation. We wouldn't be here unless we were optimistic about the prospects of making a profit. That is most of us wouldn't - I don't know Jon's reason for being here. I must say that I am still pondering over one of your earlier questions to PT - Do you consider it the right of an investor to encourage others to invest in something that is extremely high risk without letting them see the possible down side as well? I know the "right answer" to your question is "Of course not!" But what I am hesitant about is whether or not it really fits the situation on this thread, or PT's intentions. I will admit that PT does come down rather strong on Jon. I, too, would have to say I don't understand Jon's reason for being here since everything he has to offer is negative. Usually people are attracted to a thread because they are either invested or are considering investing. If they decide that it is not right for them, they move on. Jon just hasn't moved on! And, NO, I don't believe his story about wanting to educate himself. He seems to be quite well educated on this and many other subjects (I am even aware of the software program that he wrote and provides to interested investors). The only other "honest" reason I can think of that he is here is simply because he likes to debate, to play the devil's advocate, or just be disagreeable (I am a lot like that myself, so I usually recognize it in others! LOL). So, he has found a perfect foil - Party Time! Let's pretend! If PT disappeared from this thread, would there be a thread? Seriously. Would you, Aleta, be able to take the "Pro" side against Jon's constant negatives? Are there enough other Pro's out there who have the time and inclination to respond to Jon's constant barrage in order to keep the discussion going. Or would it just die under the weight of Jon's negatism? There certainly are others out there who do consider and discuss both the pro's and the con's, but how long could they "see" both sides against Jon's one sided arguments? Going one step further, what if you and Jon were the only two participants left in the discussion? Would you have anything to discuss? Would Jon convince you that ESVS is a bad investment? If not you, what about potential investors that only lurk? Would you be able to hold up the pro side? Guess you struck a nerve with me tonight....so just a little of what is on my mind! One last question Aleta - out of curiosity, what do YOU believe Jon's reason for being here is? Frankly, if his reason is just to keep a balance to the discussion, I could suggest a couple of other threads where he is needed much more than here! He could even further his "education" because they have some real "pro's" as in professional pumpers and dumpers, hypesters, bashers, etc. Night all Bill

To: aleta who wrote (13600)	9/9/1998 1:21:00 AM
From: FlatTaxMan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 18444

Aleta you are losing it! Do you have a problem with Tahoeman going to visit the company? IMHO he is one of the most level headed persons I seen at SI. I have always trusted his opinion is an honest one. If you have a problem with Party going to the company why not have Jon go to balance everything out. Afterall he does happen to live in the neighborhood. Since when do you have a problem with DD? "Only those in denial and already so heavily invested in this stock they can't afford not to believe are going to believe anything you have to say about this company." Boy are you high and mighty.