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To: TheRainmaker who wrote (20872)	9/9/1998 12:56:00 AM
From: Justin Banks	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 24154

Tim - Unix in its infancy was a joke. To whom? When, exactly, do you think it was in it's infancy? The stories of Unix going down are numerous dervish<justinb>158% rup gomer 11:40pm up 157 days, 11:26, load average: 2.48, 1.41, 0.63 Hmmm, with 29 current users, this machine seems pretty stable. and typical of a new operating system. wtf are you talking about here? Which OS is new? You can't please everyone. Go tell the NT will conquer the world crowd, please. Patience..... Yeah, soon NT7sp45 will give us all the functionality, stability, and resilience of Unix. Til then, though, my choice is clear. Whats always seemed weird to me is that if you look at a computer professional's NT box, they've made it look like Unix in order to get any real work done. Why's that, do you think? If you'd like to discuss the pros and cons of operating systems, I'd be happy to oblige, but don't just go throwing crap around and expect people to think you know wtf you're talking about. -justinb

To: TheRainmaker who wrote (20872)	9/9/1998 6:27:00 AM
From: Daniel Schuh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 24154

You're getting pretty slippery here Tim. Are you a student of cheesy high school debate tricks? Reggie hasn't been posting much lately, you'll have to hit the archives for examples from the master. Do you have any example of your favored kind of "politics" being used to force Unix to be used to control warships? In its infancy or otherwise? Do you consider NT to be "in its infancy"? Cutler was supposed to have started the project in '87 or so, at a different company. "Because of politics, some things are being forced on us that without political pressure we might not do, like Windows NT," Redman said. "If it were up to me I probably would not have used Windows NT in this particular application. If we used Unix, we would have a system that has less of a tendency to go down." I hope this tendency doesn't extend to the ships themselves. Maybe it's all part of Bill's DNA retrovirus initiative. Cheers, Dan.