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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (1954)9/9/1998 12:50:00 AM
From: Rick Slemmer  Respond to of 67261
 
Well isnt that [requiring one parent to stay at home while the other works] what family values is?

Not to me. Family values means ensuring the children are brought up to respect others as well as themselves in order to become productive members of society. Children of career couples can be effectively raised by a parent, grandparents, or other trusted role models who have a vested interest in the development of the children and who are willing to guide the little rugrats away from trouble.

I was out of the country seven years ago, so I didn't see the Republican convention to which you refer. But I think it's absolutely ludicrous to suggest that any government entity would demand that at least one parent stay home with the kids. I couldn't find any mention of that mindset at rnc.org . If you can find anything approaching that, I will gladly voice my agreement with you.

G'night.

RS



To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (1954)9/9/1998 12:53:00 AM
From: Dwight E. Karlsen  Respond to of 67261
 
Sleep well. Please respond to my lengthy post later.



To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (1954)9/9/1998 2:30:00 AM
From: Las Vegas Lou  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 67261
 
I have been reading this stuff from you for a while and I need to put my two cents in here. You need to blame the post world war two Congress for the present situation. For the first 150 years of the republic it was possible for one wage earner to support a family on one income alone. Thanks to payroll taxes and bracket creep almost the entire income of one person in a dual income family goes to pay taxes. This is the real fraud that has been foisted on the American public. Yet no one complains about this. I should point out that Congress has largely been Democratic since WWII. Secondly, others have made a good point about the value of children. I was once very ambitious and I accumulated a great deal of wealth. Thanks to a divorce and incompetent legal counsel I lost everything that I worked for over the last twenty years. If the great majority of people knew how easily everything could be taken away from you I doubt most people would go to work tommorrow. I used to live in a two million dollar house, now I live in an apartment. I have to give 50% of my income for the next ten years to my exwife who has never worked. By the way she is remarried. I have lost my pension plan, my savings and my possessions. I emerged from bankruptcy with only my exempt property. Why tell you all of this? Simple, when you have reached the final years of your life all that you will have is your memories and hopefully your children. Material things will matter very little. Thanks to the venom spewed by my exwife my children ages 8 and 13 treat me like garbage, so I am not even allowed to enjoy my kids as so many others on this thread do. I am really glad you are successful Michelle but I think you need to understand that your fortune could vanish in an instant and you will then only have those things that are not material but so very important. By the way I am 47 and a physician. Lastly, I agree with you in some respects. I now believe that it is impossible to have a successful career and a family. In my case I gave 110% to my practice and built it up but I never paid attention to what was going on at home. As I later found out my dear exwife was stealing millions of dollars from me and doing a great deal of damage to me in the community. I doubt that I would ever trust anyone again in a relationship. Although everything of a material nature is gone, I am very greatful for all of my friends, my faith, and although they are little shits, my children. Its nice to be rich, I know, but its also nice to spend the day hiking or barbecuing with friends. One can be taken away the other can't be. Life is a series of choices and you can't have it all. I would advise any professional to avoid marriage until the later years of their life. I just don't think that can risk everything by being married and you will never know until its too late whether you are sleeping with the enemy.



To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (1954)9/9/1998 11:11:00 AM
From: Bill  Respond to of 67261
 
Newt, the republicans, Moynahan and the dems in congress have bigger things to worry about than how to spoon feed spoiled 40 year old millionaire women. Excuse them while they figure out how to save social security, keep medicare affordable, fund the nation's defense programs, educate the kids, feed the hungry, and keep the streets safe.

You sound like a spoiled little rich girl yuppie. Grow up.