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To: BillHoo who wrote (17803)9/10/1998 9:43:00 PM
From: X-Ray Man  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 213177
 
You're off the mark here, Bill.

Photoshop versus Photodeluxe, Bill, is Adobe's differentiation
between professional and consumer. In the context of this
story, it would be what Adobe considers the consumer software,
not you or anyone else, that is relevant to interpreting what
is meant in the story. In any case, Adobe has denied the whole
thing vehemently, so it is moot.

Moreover, your argument about pro versus consumer meaning cheap
knockoffs will force your high-end product out doesn't wash
either. By that argument, all the cheap word processors should
have knocked Word or Excel out long ago.

I think what Adobe is finding out is that there is no market
for the "consumer", read dumbed down, version of their professional
software in the Mac market, and even that is being revisited in
the wake of new users buying iMacs. Regarding Pagemakers end of
life, clearly that is being dealt with by replacing with the new
K2 product they are developing.

All this is consistent with the idea that Adobe wants to remain
oriented toward the professional end of the applications market.
None of it implies abandoning Mac, except that they may short
term support the low end junk on Windows longer.

I think the cr*ppy story by SJM was due to a poor judgement in
editing in leaving the inflammatory statement as it was where it
could be interpreted to mean all Mac support from Adobe would end,
when I suspect in fact it was just a phrase added by the quoted
engineer to emphasize that Adobe was going to drop all support
for Macintosh for their low-end products, as the phrase just
prior says. In fact, this was old news prior to Seybold, and
was already modified at Seybold somewhat. So the story was
even cr*ppier in that the "news" value was not there because
the scoop was a poorly context repeat of old news.

Chris Nolan and her editor should be ashamed. Adobe's response
specifically using the phrase "a very damaging statement"
suggests to me a subtext message to SJM: retract or modify
your statement or we might consider it legally actionable.

Later, dudes...



To: BillHoo who wrote (17803)9/11/1998 10:41:00 AM
From: Andrew Danielson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 213177
 
<<Hey fella, lighten up!
However, I have met many people who have shelled out thousands of $$s for graphics tablets, PhotoShop, Director, etc. who are simply mediocre.>>

What is this, a talent contest? Should Adobe make people have to pass an "art test" to purchase in order to purchase one of their products?

Photoshop is a great product--one that has uses even for those who are not professionals. Therefore, unsurprisingly, some consumers with a bit of disposable income choose to buy this professional product, despite their non-professional status. You seem to disdain these people for some reason I know not why. I for one welcome them. The more customers Adobe has for Photoshop or After Effects or Illustrator, the more resources the company will have to keep the products as great as they have been for so many years.

Andrew