Before I talk with Paunch, a message from me to Charters and anyone else recommonding that the new money be used into other dirt ventures that would be saner and safer than the IPM route to Black Rock. (1) Message received and understood by this thread. (2) As of this date, from the active ipmcf shareholders, espically those that have taken an active role for months now, them being Paunch, Chuck, Robert, Alley and John, these people are the ones at the ONLY controls trying to save Black Rock dirt investment, and as the first words of this sentence implies that you already know what interest has been taken, and that is NO NO NO interest. (3) So, Charters et al, we have strong reasons, beside not trusting you, to strongly not go into another dirt venture, as you outline. Even if we did trust you 100%, you are missing the substance of what we are doing. So, please get lost, or get lost, or go to hell, please. (4)If there are any ipmcf shareholders, past or curent, that feel that what Charters is recommonding with the new money angle will bear fruit and obtain you money, to cover any ipmcf losses, then I will simply say that this is OFF TOPIC, and take it elsewhere, like in private posts or e-mail to Charters. New money used for IPM continuation with the Black Rock dirt attached, done by current ipmcf shareholders is the topic and this is the ipmcf thread. As far as I'am concered, to let IPM go into chapter 7 with no ipmcf shareholder buyout, and the highest bidder get the dirt, and IPM and ipmcf shares no longer exist, then I am out of the picture. For me, its continue IPM with the Black Rock dirt as the "soul" of the company, and someday get back onto an exchange for trading. For me, a continuation of IPM with the original dream of riches in the Black Rock dirt, AND the continuation of this thread. And a BIG reason I want the continuation of IPM is because we the current shareholders, with those active ones mentioned, will control the company. And if the Black Rock dirt is good dirt, then with these people we know in charge, I see success guaranteed just so the price of gold does not drop lower for the next years. And I have another reason, that I am sure is shared with many, and that is not only will it feel good to save our investment, but the feeling to save the IPM Company will also be great, as if after 33,000 posts, there is an connection made in spirit. Also, how many times in a persons life do one that values good over bad and evil, does one have a change to win the fight. Also, not for me, but there are people that have the thought implanted in their brains at birth, as to them reconizing that they have the ability to take control and lead, as in directors of a company. These are the types you want to oversee your money. Not those that want power or feel they have the education, as prime reasons. So, Charters, no more off-topic please. (5) all done, now to Paunch Paunch, I do not know what role or influence John Yellich had in the chapter 11 for IPM, but if he can help us continue IPM, and we need his type of skills, then I see no reason not to ask and let him be part of this as in being CEO or President or whatever the title is that will describe the type of work he will do. All we need to know is that he will not behind our backs try to make IPM fail. Period. As for Chuca's experience talking with him a month ago, put a person in a corner with people saying bad things about him, wanting to tar and feather the person, looking for evidence to show and prove that he is a bad person that done wrong. Walk up to this person and he will look at you as if you are a threat, and if you ask he any question, he knows that eventho you are asking simple things, this person does not trust you and wants to punish you. So, John Yellich found it hard to talk and give out information to current shareholders that are trying to find guilt and punish those that wronged IPM, and John Yellich is on the list of possible bad people. The fact that he actually talked as much as he did surprises me. Think yourself in a dark alley in new york city by yourself and a bunch of street thugs approach you and ask you questions, you will feel fear and talk only under a heavy weight of pressure and non trust. Enough. For myself, I want to restate a simple sentence I wrote above. My new money is to continue the IPM Company with the Black Rock dirt. No buy out paying the debt, and only bid for the dirt does not interest me any more. If I cannot see IPM continue and get back onto an exchange after proving the dirt and price of gold goes up, and continue posting on this thread, then my interest is lost. Doug |