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To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (4841)	9/12/1998 11:03:00 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 26163

I did a quick check of the SEC web site and found that all their lawsuits begin with: "SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION v." Jeff, I was thinking the same thing. And I would challenge Icabod to provide us the Case #, or Civil Action File #, for this SEC action against Wellrich. It should be publicly available. Regards, Ron

To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (4841)	9/12/1998 11:07:00 AM
From: Just My Opinion	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 26163

I think that was an email sent to the SEC to help? them. If you read that post from that perspective it makes a little more sense. (I think) I also searched for a case, and couldn't find one.

To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (4841)	9/12/1998 1:30:00 PM
From: Arcane Lore	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 26163

Jeff: Actually, in the case of criminal fraud actions, the case would be described as "United States v. Whoever". Here's an example from the SEC site announcing the sentencing in the criminal trial of Charles Huttoe (United States v. Charles O. Huttoe, Cr. 96-429-A) in the context of the corresponding civil enforcement action (Securities And Exchange Commission v. Charles O. Huttoe, et al., Civil Action No. 96-02543): sec.gov The relative difficulty one has in finding details of criminal enforcement actions at the SEC site is due, at least partly, to the relative infrequency with which such actions are sought. It also reflects the fact that the reporting of such actions at the site is less extensive than the corresponding reporting of civil enforcement actions. Fortunately, the SEC has realized that more criminal enforcement actions are required and appears to be taking steps in this direction. I do agree Icabod's purported letter from an attorney to the SEC lacks credibility. I believe few securities attorneys would make all of the following mistakes in a single letter: indite State of California Securities and Exchange Commission - Not only is the California securities regulator not known by a name remotely like this one (see #reply-5679192 ), none of the 50 states has a securities regulator with a name of the form: "State of ... Securities and Exchange Commission" (see law.ab.umd.edu ) State of Califirnia [sic] Office Of The Attorney General, Telemarketing Division. While the California Attorney General is actively pursuing telemarketing fraud ( caag.state.ca.us ), he hasn't seen fit to create a division for it as yet (see caag.state.ca.us )