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To: Jeffrey L. Henken who wrote (132)9/13/1998 11:07:00 PM
From: Phil(bullrider)  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 939
 
Jeff,

I have read a LOT of your messages, and now you have posted a few in the area of my expertise.

EVDS may have a flagship product, but in my opinion they are at least ten years too late.

Around 1989, the engineering firm I work for began a project removing and replacing underground storage tanks for several regional, and one worldwide, TELCO companies, along with several state agencies. Due to the 1998 deadline, most of the industry is presently in compliance.

You are sadly mistaken if you think that V-R is the only competition left. Your contacts failed to mention Pneumercator, Red Jacket, and Gilbarco among others. I can give you a complete list if any of your readers are interested.

Jeff, I think you are mistaken again in your comment,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
Lets talk about the problem that EVDS is addressing with their CAPSCAN device.
The EPA requires that all USTs be monitored with much greater accuracy than the
outdated stick measurement was ever capable of delivering. The EPA requires
reports be filed with them weekly on each tank showing that they are being
monitored on a daily basis.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The EPA requires monitoring, but there are presently no requirements that the monitoring be electronic. Manual stick readings are acceptable, as long as the readings are recorded. Obviously, electronic readings, especially with a printout to record the readings, are preferable, but not required.

Your comment regarding weekly reporting is in error also. The EPA requires annual reports, not weekly. The record keeping needs to be on a monthly basis. Inventory monitoring, depending on the usage, may have to maintained on a daily basis, but may still be performed manually. For instance, with a facility such as a TELCO CO,(central office) that only uses the product periodically, the monitoring needs to take place when they use it. In the case of a service station, they need to keep track on a daily basis. But again, there is no present requirement to monitor electronically.

Now concerning installation costs, every system I am aware of that monitors the contents of a UST, requires one to excavate to the top of the tank so that electrical conduit can be installed and an access port can be utilized for the probe that monitors the level of product.
This is a major cost in the retrofit.

If this device can be installed in the fill pipe, is there no requirement for electrical conduit? If not, it is a mechanical device and not an electrical device at all. And if it is not an electrical monitoring device, it is very little better than someone sticking the tank as necessary. In fact, not as good, as I have found very few mechanical devices that maintained consistent accuracy. This is the very reason for a lot of the EPA regulations, in the fact that the mechanical devices would hang up, and would cease to function.

You say the device is an electronic device that can be read with a handheld computer. Where is the power source. With no conduit, it must have batteries. What is the battery life? What is the requirement to change them? What happens to the memory (history) if they go dead?

You also mention residential UST's. There are presently no EPA requirements concerning residential UST's, so I don't believe one could justify any acceptable estimates concerning sales for residential users.

In short, I'll watch your recommendation, but I don't expect too much.

Have fun,
Phil