To: DaveMG who wrote (14955 ) 9/13/1998 4:08:00 PM From: dougjn Respond to of 152472
Thanks. And Dave, I agree with you completely about the great need for a speedy resolution. That is widely viewed as impossible, unless Clinton resigns. Although it would certainly be an unusual way for Congress to proceed, I think a fairly speedy resolution is possible. I also think great, great pressure will be brought upon Congress to move quickly. He're how it may work. It will become clear by early next week, starting as early as tomorrow's evening news programs, that there is no great and overwhelming wave of pressure from the public for Clinton to resign, or to be summarily sacked. Some will think he should resign, others not. That's what we're hearing now. A divided view. Actually, as the press starts to digest that, and some start adjusting their own views a bit and feeding that back to public, the stay but rebuke movement may well gather strenth as the week goes on. Anyway, I think Clinton's numbers won't erode horribly, and that most will still say he should remain in office (while expressing strong disapproval). Perhaps there will be more erosion than that. The point is there won't be any tidal wave that disposes of the issue for Congress. Next some in his party may, quietly, send out feelers to Clinton on resignation, for the good of the party in the November election. He'll say no. I was elected, and I'm going to fight Clinton will say. It's who I am. I did wrong, but not impeachable wrong. There is no easy way out of this. We have a Constitution. Fight with me. They will be hard pressed to publically turn agaist him, most of them, unless the public is clamoring for his removal. So what next? Talking heads and public pressure will turn, and turn hard, on Congress to get on with it. The prosection case as been made. The media are going to start asking members of Congress isn't this now your most important immediate duty, other than passing at least a temporary budget? Shouldn't you proceed quickly? Why can't you proceed very quickly? Why can't you answer the question of whether this is enough to impeach? So vote already, judiciary committee, on whether Starr has made an impeachable case, if the facts he alleges are true. If they do vote there is enough for impeachment, assuming the alleged facts are true, and perhaps House will, why shouldn't the case then go straight to the Senate? After all, the House's role in impeachment is usually thought to be analagous to that of a grand jury. Grand jury's only listen to the prosecution. The defence makes its case at trial, if there is enough evidence for one. The main argument in favor of letting Clinton make a case in front of the House is that the grave step of voting articles of impeachment should not be taken lightly, or the country put through that trauma, without strong evidence. Well we have been put through the trauma of impending impeachment hearings for months now, so lets get on with it. A reasonable compromise might be to allow the President's attorney full opportunity to argue the legal insufficieny of the IC's case in front of the House Judiciary Committee, but not to allow cross examination there. Go through that only once. Perhaps also they should be allowed to introduce new exculpatory evidence in the House if they wish. Things like testimony from Jordan and Richardson, etc. about what the President didn't tell them to do. Compromises could get worked out. Clinton knows his real shot is in the Senate, unless there is a real groundswell of public opinion against impeachment. That is possible, and may be developing a bit, but probably not enough to stop the Republican House majority. We'll know that by the end of this week, I think. So why not a House vote before a mid October recess for elections, and a Senate trial immediately after? (And forget about the traditional recess until January?) The thing decided by Christmas. Congress, why is that not your duty to the country? After all, the President's rebuttal case is not that complicated. It's all about cross examination, and argument of the Constitutional standards to be applied. Some related thoughts elsewhere:exchange2000.com Doug