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Pastimes : Dream Machine ( Build your own PC ) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Dave Bissett who wrote (2470)	9/13/1998 9:07:00 PM
From: Dave Hanson	Respond to of 14778

Dave, I've just built a very similar system, so I'll take a stab at your post, then let the other capable participants add their two cents. As indicated in an earlier post, I'm running a boxed (0 step) 266 Celeron at 400 mhz, eventually to be replaced by a boxed 300a. Some thoughts: -if you haven't done so already, check out the excellent Abit board site bxboards.pair.com , "The Unofficial Abit BX6/BH6 Page." This guy has complied lots of really detailed info on the Bh6 and bx6 boards as well as issues relating to them. (For instance, I'd suggest all prospective do it yourselfers check out his SDRAM and case surverys.) -performance increase definately noticable jumping from 266/66 to 400/100, as tomshardware.com benchmarks and others have indicated. -I'm using the Kingston lifetime-warranty PC 66 DRAM purchased at Comp USA ($150 for 128 SDRAM stick) so that I could return it easily if I had problems. It uses 16 Samsung 10 ns (end with "G10" on the chips) and seems to be running great. The above mentioned page indicates that these chips should be good up to 103 mhz at normal (up to CAS 2) settings. So far, I'm doing fine at CAS 3. I may try CAS 2, if there's a noticable performance difference (benchmarks, anyone?) but like you I have no interest in clocking beyond 100 mhz, as everything but the CPU (and technically, the RAM in my case) stays within spec. -I don't think you'll need the 300 watt PS with the In Winn FT unless you're doing something like Sean, with his dual PIIs, or putting in _many_ HDDs. The celeron runs around 20 watts even OC'd, and the BH6 isn't a big current draw. Then again, the extra cost isn't that much. Like Sean, I do like the case quite a bit. I have a few minor questions regarding it I'll post later. Hope this is helpful, Dave

To: Dave Bissett who wrote (2470)	9/13/1998 10:14:00 PM
From: Street Walker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 14778

Very Nice Proposal- nearly models mine<g> The only things I would change is the power supply as mentioned and the hard drive. The 250W InWin FT case is all you need,imo. Both IBM an Maxtor make a Hard drive in the 7 gig area that has a 7200 rpm and a 9 m/s seek rate. Nearly competes with SCSI without the price, noise, and heat. I called Maxtor and they said they will be shipping them in the next week. storagereview.com Aug 98 review article placed the Maxtor Diamondmax 2500 (7200 rpm) above the equivalant IBM. Both are excellent,however. PCI/AGP: The Abit has 5 pci slots. I would do an AGP/PCI combo of the two cards, just to preserve the PCI slots for potential upgrades. You may choose to even add a third or fourth monitor, later on. RAM: Tom's hardware likes Samsung based Ram. If you are going to get ECC, you might as well spend just a few $$ more for the PC 100 as well. Just in case you want to overclock the bus speed to 112 - which is a very popular setting, you'll have the quality ram to do it. If you get overly eager, you could go with the 125 bus ram and try OC the bus at that setting. The 124 Bus setting on the Abit was a nice move, in that the 112 setting was getting boring and the 132 setting wasn't stable enough with current ram. In comes the 124 bus setting only on the ABIT and PC 124 compliant Ram. Sometimes subtle choices can be a pain in the you know what. Regards, S.W.