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To: INFO_DART who wrote (5)	9/13/1998 11:13:00 PM
From: peter michaelson	Respond to of 276

Yo INFO_D!! Best wishes and congratulations on the birth of this beautiful thread. peter

To: INFO_DART who wrote (5)	9/15/1998 7:54:00 AM
From: long-gone	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 276

Would we have the guts they had? a quote: They that would give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Ben Franklin, 1759 I use this, to make the statement that many would allow this President to remain in office without regard to his crimes, to prevent the crash of the market. I ,moreover, wonder if would we stand up for those freedoms we claim in cyberspace? Just how far could we carry it? From here I must wonder if we of today have not lost the very essence which made our founding fathers great? "We, therefore, the representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions,do, in the name, and by the authority of the good people of these colonies, solemnly publish and declare, that these united colonies are, and of right ought to be free and independent states; that they are dissolved from allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connections between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved;and that as free and independent states, they have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and do all other acts and things which independent states may of right do. And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor." Would we have the needed strengths, to make such a pledge, of even our "cyber lives"? Of our actual lives, fortunes, and honor? These are questions we must each ask? How strong are we? How far would we go for our rights? rh