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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: RON BL who wrote (3062)9/16/1998 12:29:00 AM
From: Lizzie Tudor  Respond to of 67261
 
amount of conservatives out there who are radical right is about the same as the amount of liberals out there who are of the LUKE SISSYFAG type. They are a minority.

Hmmm no, I beg to differ. For example, take this issue of prayer in schools. Why is that a big deal? Because its a big deal to the RR thats why, and the republicans are in bed with the RR. Now, prayer in schools is one of those things which is difficult to administer in places like CA and NY (where there can be literally 20 cultures in one class and youre lucky if 40% speak english) and really, can anybody out there make the argument that there is a huge payoff for this issue of prayer in school? Why bother when there are so many more important things, other than the RR support? Otoh, liberals, they have some some allegiances to say, the gay interest. And there are some issues such as gay marriages, corp benefits for domestic partners etc that liberals support but its never a key component to their platform - they focus on other things like education etc. with these gay issues secondary.



To: RON BL who wrote (3062)9/16/1998 10:13:00 AM
From: dougjn  Respond to of 67261
 
I am arguing that no private citizen would be prosecuted for this smallest,most understandable, and least consequential of civil perjuries. Much less subjected to the absolute inquisition that Clinton has.

The Grand Jury perjury was Starr's inquisitional demand that Clinton restate his civil deposition position. Pure and simple.

Yeah, I'm saying show SOME of the same proportion towards our President that we would towards a private citizen.

And by the by, why not take a look at the overbroad set of questions that private citizens may sometimes be asked in sexual harrassment lawsuits? Depends on the judge. It shouldn't. There should be shield laws for men (evil though we are assumed to all be), just as there are rape shield laws for women. Women in rape cases in states with the shield laws (which is most) cannot be asked about their unrelated sexual history with other men. It's too prejudicial, and is at most only remotely and very, very slightly relevant to whether the alleged rape was really consensual sex. Same thing for men in harrassment cases. Don't ask about the man's consensual ralations with other women. Too prejudical, and too damaging outside the case. Same issue. Should be the same barr. I feel this strongly.

Doug