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To: Alomex who wrote (18102)9/17/1998 1:10:00 AM
From: IanBruce  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 213177
 
...now you swing to the other side
and consider important the fact that I live
in Canada.


No. I was responding to your following comment. To wit:

People here have been posting their local
experiences all over the country.


By "country", we're to assume you mean the United States.

Put together (this) give(s) us a picture of how the
iMac is doing. I've posted my local data points.


<Groan...> So you're either saying is that your personal experiences in God knows where have a direct relationship to what's happening with Apple's marketing effort here in the US -- which is nonsense...

Or, that the United States and Canada are the same country... which is complete nonsense.

Thanks for clearing that up.

In fact my guess would be that the 150,000 pre-orders
for iMacs include sales in Canada, even (though) Canadians
do not live in "this country".


Woah! You're saying that Canadians don't live in Canada? Where are you keeping them? Now I know you're nuts.

Ian Bruce
New York, NY



To: Alomex who wrote (18102)9/17/1998 1:17:00 AM
From: yofal  Respond to of 213177
 
You will also see that Apple launched the iMac here at the same time as in the US, a fact that is so taken for granted that wasn't even noted in Apple's press releases. In fact my guess would be that the 150,000 pre-orders for iMacs include sales in Canada, even do Canadians do not live in "this country".

There are Apple bulls in this forum which live in Canada. Ask them.


I'm one of them. I live in Toronto and my take on the iMac rollout is a tad different from Al's. I was lucky enough to have been travelling across Canada on the day of the North American release and was able to gauge reaction in a few of Canada's larger cities (Vancouver, Regina, Toronto), albeit on a personal scale. Local advertising in Toronto has been limited - but constant - with the major Apple dealerships placing regular advertising in the local papers. TV ads on the major networks started here about a week ago during primetime broadcast of American programming. I just saw a beautiful multi-page brochure in the latest I.D. magazine. I've done some eavesdropping in local stores and watched boxes disappear over the course of a couple of hours a week ago - it appears that they're still moving. "Think Different" billboards continue to dot downtown landscape (nothing iMac yet) and Canada's national newspaper The Globe and Mail has recently run more articles and commentary in its business section putting Apple in a much better light - Apple was rated a "star" amongst a field of other tech "dogs" a couple of weeks ago!

Also as one of "them" I have to say I'm disappointed at the recent spate of generalizations made about Canada of late - even if they were really just meant as personal attacks on one bearish Canuck. It's annoying for the rest of us who have to just put up with these idiotic comments for the sake of civility. It's ironic that some people choose to look down their noses at a country where Apple enjoys a much larger share of the computing public than the US of A.

But, hey, it's really just people blowing off some steam. It's been a tense couple of weeks with very small gains and losses moving back and forth and there's been a lot of fighting over "scraps" of late. Tearing apart hearsay and conjecture - arguing about this guess versus another - it does little except make ones eyes weary scanning through it all.

I think a small downturn in the rate of sales is natural now that the iMac's been out a month - initial impulse buying is basically over (except for very large centers) - buying will almost certainly heat up again closer to Christmas, and in that time Apple's various lines will have filled back in, peripherals will have finally arrived and quarterly earnings will be reported. Why worry now?

Hope we can get along from here on in...

Marc
(Go Apple)