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To: Ron who wrote (1114)	9/17/1998 4:13:00 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1533

Has anyone else picked up this story besides Salon? It might even be construed as worse than Clinton in some ways based on the damage to Snodgrass family.

To: Ron who wrote (1114)	9/17/1998 4:15:00 PM
From: mrknowitall	Respond to of 1533

Ron - I happen agree that he is in no position to judge Clinton's sexual behavior in this situation. I note, however, that ol' Henry hasn't been sworn in as a witness in any related legal proceedings and as far as we know, hasn't lied under oath about it. Amazing what you can accomplish with a few old files, isn't it! Fire up that flame thrower guys - scorch 'em while it's hot! Hey, Bill goes down, they all go down, right? Let's poke some holes in the lifeboats just for spite. Mr. K.

To: Ron who wrote (1114)	9/17/1998 4:15:00 PM
From: j_b	Respond to of 1533

<<He should remove himself from the chairmanship while they consider Clinton-Lewinsky. >> Why? It's not about sex. Aren't you one of the people that keep telling us that a person's private life is just that? Hyde hasn't lied under oath or abused his position. As to the allegations made in the article regarding potential past and future affairs of Hyde - look at who is making the accusations - they admittedly hate the man and his politics and admit that there is no proof, only a feeling. It's irrelevant. I'll try this again - Hyde is only one vote on the committee. He can't cause articles of impeachment to be brought and he can't impeach Clinton. He doesn't even get to vote on impeachment. If he came out publicly and said Clinton was the anti-christ, it would not give Hyde more power (or less) to impeach. All of this is irrelevant. Only the Senate can impeach, so even if your logic is true, only issues relating to the Senate would matter. To follow up - every single person in the House and Senate is biased. By your standards, none of them should be allowed a voice on this or a vote. The Constitution does not say that only the pure may vote on impeachment. The House sets its own standards regarding recusing one's self from matters in front of the committee, and if the committee members feel that Hyde should recuse himself, I'm sure we will hear about it soon. Until that time, you are just blowing smoke. It's not about Hyde, it's not about sex, it's about Clinton and his lying and possible abuse of power.

To: Ron who wrote (1114)	9/17/1998 4:28:00 PM
From: CO	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1533

I disagree. It happened THIRTY years ago. And Henry Hyde has more than proved himself since then. All Clinton has ever done is CONTINUE to have affair after affair. He had a 12 year affair with Jennifer Flowers. And he admitted to Monica that he had over ONE HUNDRED affairs before he was forty. I really don't think Clinton is sorry for anything wrong that he has done. He is just sorry that he got caught. And he committed perjury to protect himself when he was caught. Beside the issue is NOT sex. The issue is perjury, obstruction of justice, intimidating witnesses and abuse of power. Here is a post that lists a large number of suspicious deaths surrounding Clinton. Message 5724325

To: Ron who wrote (1114)	9/18/1998 1:29:00 PM
From: Les H	Respond to of 1533

She was already in the middle of divorce proceedings. Considering that Hyde is evaluating Clinton based on Starr's referral which does not levy a charge that the president with having an affair as an impeachable offense, there is no hypocrisy here. Man Wanted To Reveal Hyde Hypocrisy JOHN PACENTI Associated Press Writer WESTON, Fla. (AP) - A retired salesman who said he was tired of hypocrisy divulged a secret that gives House Judiciary Chairman Henry Hyde and President Clinton something in common: an extramarital affair. Norm Sommer, who went to the Internet magazine Salon with news of a 1960s affair between the then-married Hyde and the former wife of Sommer's tennis buddy Fred Snodgrass, insisted the White House was not behind the story, as some Republicans have alleged. ''Let me make very clear that nobody ... has been in contact with me from the White House,'' Sommer said Thursday from his home in nearby Aventura. ''I tried to call the White House to offer support but they never called me back. I tried to call 57 people in the media. Salon was the last on my list.'' Of Hyde, who is leading the House impeachment review of Clinton's sexual relationship with Monica Lewinsky, Sommer said: ''He is the height of hypocrisy.'' Republicans blamed the story on the White House - an allegation hotly denied by the Clinton administration and Salon. Sommer said he initiated the call to the online magazine because he ''doesn't want to see a president railroaded out of office.'' The story forced Hyde, R-Ill., to admit to what he called ''youthful indiscretions.'' Sommer, 72, said he learned of the affair during a tennis match with Snodgrass about six years ago. Sommer's comments came on the same day that Republicans demanded an FBI inquiry into an alleged ''systematic attempt to intimidate'' Hyde and others. Snodgrass, 76, a retired furniture salesman living in this Fort Lauderdale suburb, said the affair ruined his life, and that recounting it threatens to destroy an already fragile relationship with his eldest child, a daughter who told him not to give reporters her name or give her whereabouts. According to Snodgrass, Hyde was a 41-year-old state legislator and the father of four sons when the affair began in 1965 with 29-year-old Cherie Snodgrass, who had a son and two daughters between the ages of 7 and 9 at the time. The relationship lasted until 1969 or later, he said. Snodgrass said he and his wife divorced because of the affair, reconciled, but divorced again in 1971. But Cherie Soskin, 62, the former Mrs. Snodgrass, who now lives in San Antonio, provided a somewhat different account. She told The Associated Press that she was 25 years old, separated from her husband and starting divorce proceedings when the affair with Hyde began. She said her ex-husband was publicizing the affair out of revenge. Ms. Soskin said the affair lasted seven years, breaking up by mutual agreement in 1967 or 1968. Ms. Soskin said she learned during the affair that Hyde, who sent her cards and pictures inscribed with messages of love, was married. ''I didn't care. I wasn't looking for marriage. I was trying to get out of a bad one,'' she told the newspaper. She told The Dallas Morning News that she didn't believe Hyde is morally fit to judge Clinton. ''No, I do not, because of his past,'' she said.